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  • ndutton
    Afourian MVP
    • May 2009
    • 9776

    Mechanical Fuel Pump

    Anybody interested in a mechanical fuel pump?

    My PO installed an electric pump and left the mechanical in place but disconnected, means it's been operating dry. I'm sure it needs a rebuild but it's outside appearance is good. Priming lever flutters as it should when the engine is running.

    Price - send me a Moyer fuel pump blanking plate with gasket and the mechanical pump is yours.
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    Neil
    1977 Catalina 30
    San Pedro, California
    prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
    Had my hands in a few others
  • sastanley
    Afourian MVP
    • Sep 2008
    • 7030

    #2
    Hmmmm...why not have three!?!?
    -Shawn
    "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
    "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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    • ndutton
      Afourian MVP
      • May 2009
      • 9776

      #3
      Does that constitute an offer??
      Neil
      1977 Catalina 30
      San Pedro, California
      prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
      Had my hands in a few others

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      • sastanley
        Afourian MVP
        • Sep 2008
        • 7030

        #4
        I gotta buy the blanking plate first!
        -Shawn
        "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
        "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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        • Dave Neptune
          Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
          • Jan 2007
          • 5050

          #5
          Trade?

          Niel, I would like to trade you for it but I have an extra mechanical pump already. Have you ever delt with RS Marine in Wilmington on 22nd Street near the Cabrillo Marina? Jack may have a plate he would trade he still does some A-4 work in his shop. I have delt with him for many years and he is a good source of knowledge on the ole A-4's.

          Dave Neptune

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          • ndutton
            Afourian MVP
            • May 2009
            • 9776

            #6
            Thanks for the tip Dave.

            Say 'hey' to Thatch for me this weekend.
            Neil
            1977 Catalina 30
            San Pedro, California
            prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
            Had my hands in a few others

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            • roadnsky
              Afourian MVP
              • Dec 2008
              • 3127

              #7
              Hey, I have an extra plate but no gasket.
              (It's brand new and purdy)

              Shawn, can you source a gasket?
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              -Jerry

              'Lone Ranger'
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              1978 RANGER 30

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              • ndutton
                Afourian MVP
                • May 2009
                • 9776

                #8
                This is the plate I'm after.

                Neil
                1977 Catalina 30
                San Pedro, California
                prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                Had my hands in a few others

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                • roadnsky
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3127

                  #9
                  Oh yeah.
                  The one I have is the plate combined with the mounting bracket for the Facet pump.
                  And we all know why I have the spare plate...
                  -Jerry

                  'Lone Ranger'
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                  1978 RANGER 30

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                  • ndutton
                    Afourian MVP
                    • May 2009
                    • 9776

                    #10
                    Jerry, I was thinkin' you might be all over this mechanical pump for reasons that remain unstated.
                    Neil
                    1977 Catalina 30
                    San Pedro, California
                    prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                    Had my hands in a few others

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                    • roadnsky
                      Afourian MVP
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 3127

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ndutton View Post
                      Jerry, I was thinkin' you might be all over this mechanical pump for reasons that remain unstated.
                      Nah, not me.
                      I'm cut from stubborn cloth. I never give up...
                      -Jerry

                      'Lone Ranger'
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                      1978 RANGER 30

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                      • hanleyclifford
                        Afourian MVP
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 6994

                        #12
                        Jerry - Stubborn is good. Still, once again Neil and I are coming to nearly the same conclusion (another scare), albeit from slightly different angles. It seems that the design characteristics of the Facet pump are showing their worst side in your installation and environment. I would not want to revert to a mechanical pump which I regard as passe' in this day and age. I can tell you that the Carter pump I use runs only to bring up and maintain specified pressure and is always cold to the touch. Check it out online. Regards, Hanley

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                        • ndutton
                          Afourian MVP
                          • May 2009
                          • 9776

                          #13
                          Originally posted by hanleyclifford View Post
                          Still, once again Neil and I are coming to nearly the same conclusion (another scare), albeit from slightly different angles. It seems that the design characteristics of the Facet pump are showing their worst side in your installation and environment.
                          To bring the stars back into alignment, that's not my conclusion at all.

                          I enjoy the side benefits of the electric pump (discussed elsewhere on this forum) and the Facet has been trouble free for me. It's also performed well for Jerry even at the discomforting temperatures he's experiencing.
                          I would not want to revert to a mechanical pump which I regard as passe' in this day and age.
                          I would have no problem reverting to the mechanical pump if necessary. They have a long history in the automotive field and as I've said before, the A4 designers were a pretty sharp bunch and if they used a mechanical pump . . , blah, blah, blah.
                          Last edited by ndutton; 08-08-2010, 10:43 AM.
                          Neil
                          1977 Catalina 30
                          San Pedro, California
                          prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                          Had my hands in a few others

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                          • Dave Neptune
                            Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 5050

                            #14
                            Pumps are pumps???

                            Personally I have a mechanical pump and a rebuild kit in my ditty box of parts. The rebuild kik is in a box with an electric (pulse type) pump. Ah the best of both worlds(?) or just plain indecision. I have used both styles of pumps (and various electric designs) and have had good luck with both.

                            I have followed the "Hot Facet" thread a bit and wonder how there seems to be so much temp when so little energy is being used just to pump the fuel which should also cool the fuel pump. A few of the electric pumps I used were set up for a bypass back to the tank to maintain fuel injection preasures and they ran at about fuel temps or SLIGHTLY warmer. Niel what is the rating of your Carter pump and what type of pump is it? Also are you using a regulator for preassure?

                            I met Tom at the races yesterday. It was odd to talk our ole' flatheads with all the big block horsepower sitting around. The SS-7 is a clean looking beast and was doing quite well when I saw Tom. I got to listen to them all day while bonding in a bulkhead that was squeaking agains the headliner. Today I may install my new water pump cover that came with my new MMI coffee mug.

                            Niel, common and get the plate from Jerry and make a "ball-peen" gasket, I have a few installed on mine when the gaskets were not readily available.

                            Dave Neptune

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                            • ndutton
                              Afourian MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 9776

                              #15
                              Dave,

                              Actually, it's Hanley advocating the Carter pump. I have the Facet and I'm happy with it.

                              Regarding Jerry's plate, Shawn nibbled at my offer first so ethically I'll see that through before exploring other possibilities.

                              And finally, aah - ball peen gaskets. That takes me back to high school auto shop in the 60's.
                              Neil
                              1977 Catalina 30
                              San Pedro, California
                              prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                              Had my hands in a few others

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