Rusted-out Diverter Cap

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  • Rick_Powers
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 155

    Rusted-out Diverter Cap

    OK, so I'm ready to replace my eroded cooling plate bolts with the MMI stud kit.

    I have the cooling plate off, and am looking at the old diverter cap on the inside. I have a new one to install.

    The old one is so rusted that it is a mere shell of itself, and looks to be totally welded (by rust) to the T-fitting threads.

    Should I:

    1) Fight with it and try to remove that old cap at any price, including trying to unscrew the T-fitting with risk of damaging that piece.

    2) Simply use Cold-Weld to "glue" the new cap in place.

    3) Do nothing and leave a big, straight-in opening from the T-valve.

    Thanks for the advice. I'd rather not have to get this far into my engine again...
    Rick Powers
    Palo Alto, CA
    1976 Catalina 27
  • Rick_Powers
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 155

    #2
    Question Answered

    ..via Don over the phone.

    The brass T-fitting is easily removed with a 3/4" wrench and a table vise, and the rusted cap fell to the ground...
    Rick Powers
    Palo Alto, CA
    1976 Catalina 27

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    • Dromo
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 217

      #3
      Penetrating Oil

      What I did with mine was to keep applying penetrating oil for a few days. I generously sprayed oil to both the inside and outside of the cap. Then I placed the T-fitting side of the plate in a vise, in a towel, so it wouldn't damage the brass fitting and used a pipe wrench on the cap to loosen it, you might try tapping the cap every now and then with a hammer to help the oil penetrate.
      best of luck: Rick

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      • rigspelt
        Afourian MVP
        • May 2008
        • 1252

        #4
        Consider getting the new MMI side plate:

        or

        - welded alternator adjusting arm pivot point.
        - clean gasket surface.
        - MMI-designed brass diverter with larger hole aft and smaller hole forward to optimize circulation. Don posted an explanation of this somewhere in the forum archives.

        I didn't want to come back to this prematurely either, so that was my choice.
        1974 C&C 27

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        • Rick_Powers
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 155

          #5
          Side Plate Flange Weld Fix

          Yes, I considered buying the new MMI side plate...(nice, shiny, etc)

          But, my plate was in fair condition. After speaking to Don on the phone, I took his advice, and took the side plate and alternator flange to my local welder (who is also a sailor! Cool!). For a few bucks, he welded the flange for me.

          I installed the new diverter plug and drilled the proper holes in the proper directions.

          I am am now dry fitting the two stud kits for the lower 4 bolt holes. One of them is a bit cock-eyed (weird stuff inside the block) so I need to do some minor adjustments to get a proper fit.

          Question: What is the best way to dry the inside of the block there to get the Dry-Weld (Epoxy) to bond well? I keep drying it with paper towels and keep getting water. It looks like there is a drain plug bolt aft of the plate opening, is that true?

          Thanks!
          Last edited by Rick_Powers; 02-03-2009, 08:35 PM.
          Rick Powers
          Palo Alto, CA
          1976 Catalina 27

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          • s/v Dearbhail
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 69

            #6
            Rick when I worked mine I used a shop vac to suck out the crud and water. My engine does have a 4" pipe nipple and cap above the accesory drive unit. Removing that did help eliminate the water.
            Mark
            1970, Northwind 29, #5

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            • msauntry
              • May 2008
              • 507

              #7
              I have two in my engine, below the #1 cylinder and the #4 cylinder.

              I had to break up some black sediment with awls and coathangers to get them to flow.

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              • sastanley
                Afourian MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 7030

                #8
                Ha...my drain tube (aft) near the accessory drive broke off the other day!

                But there should be one back there!
                -Shawn
                "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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