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  • ndutton
    Afourian MVP
    • May 2009
    • 9776

    #16
    When I switched to a Delco 10Si I had to relieve the alternator mounting/lifting eye bracket slightly to allow the larger case to rotate down sufficiently. In my case with the engine located under the dinette seat there is zero wiggle room in overall engine height.
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    Neil
    1977 Catalina 30
    San Pedro, California
    prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
    Had my hands in a few others

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    • ronstory
      Afourian MVP
      • Feb 2016
      • 405

      #17
      I wish I had known about Neil's genius alternator bracket mod before I had torqued down the head on the new motor.

      I installed the alternator today... and my 10si case is contacting exactly where Neil marked up the photo. So now that I know there is a proven solution, I need to un-torque the head and take the hacksaw to it.

      The good news, is I can do some touch up on paint that I marred with the tight fit of the alternator.
      Last edited by ronstory; 11-24-2020, 11:16 AM. Reason: typos
      Thanks,
      Ron
      Portland, OR

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      • Surcouf
        Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
        • May 2018
        • 372

        #18
        [QUOTE=ronstory;123854

        I installed the alternator today... and my 10si case is contacting exactly where Neil marked up the photo. So now that I know there is a proven solution, I need to un-torque the head and take the hacksaw to it.

        [/QUOTE]

        if ity was me, I would take a small grinder / small hand tool, and grind those 2 corners on the engine directly, rather than taking the risk of loosening the head... just my 2 cents. Good luck
        Surcouf
        A nostalgic PO - Previously "Almost There" - Catalina 27 (1979)

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        • Bayou Sailor
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2020
          • 51

          #19
          the grind

          Alternator came in yesterday. I will pick it up this afternoon and head to the boat with the alt and my 4" grinder! Thanks for the input! I will give the final report on this tomorrow, and then on to completing my brightwork. But of course, that is a different forum.

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          • Mo
            Afourian MVP
            • Jun 2007
            • 4519

            #20
            Good luck. "Finishing your brightwork"...awesome. I have a 30 kt cold north wind blowing at my patio door right now, the boat is on the hard and I'm watching youtube video's of sailing (NBJS channel on youtube) and wishing I was 20 years younger. All the best.
            Mo

            "Odyssey"
            1976 C&C 30 MKI

            The pessimist complains about the wind.
            The optimist expects it to change.
            The realist adjusts the sails.
            ...Sir William Arthur Ward.

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            • joe_db
              Afourian MVP
              • May 2009
              • 4527

              #21
              I am in mid-varnish and I should have worked faster. I think about 2 out of the next 10 days will be good for varnishing.
              Joe Della Barba
              Coquina
              C&C 35 MK I
              Maryland USA

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              • ndutton
                Afourian MVP
                • May 2009
                • 9776

                #22
                Originally posted by joe_db View Post
                I am in mid-varnish and I should have worked faster. I think about 2 out of the next 10 days will be good for varnishing.
                Cobalt Drier aka Japan Drier is your friend.
                Neil
                1977 Catalina 30
                San Pedro, California
                prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                Had my hands in a few others

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                • GregH
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 598

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ndutton View Post
                  Cobalt Drier aka Japan Drier is your friend.
                  https://www.amazon.com/Crown-JD-M-64...E0WMB2YB432JA7
                  Good Grief! $53 CAD on amazon.ca from a seller vs your $15 USD
                  Greg
                  1975 Alberg 30
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                  • joe_db
                    Afourian MVP
                    • May 2009
                    • 4527

                    #24
                    Originally posted by GregH View Post
                    Good Grief! $53 CAD on amazon.ca from a seller vs your $15 USD
                    If I ever move to Canada I think I'll get a PO Box on the USA side of the border before I leave.
                    Joe Della Barba
                    Coquina
                    C&C 35 MK I
                    Maryland USA

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                    • ndutton
                      Afourian MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 9776

                      #25
                      Originally posted by GregH View Post
                      Good Grief! $53 CAD on amazon.ca from a seller vs your $15 USD
                      Not my fault . . .
                      Neil
                      1977 Catalina 30
                      San Pedro, California
                      prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                      Had my hands in a few others

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                      • sastanley
                        Afourian MVP
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 7030

                        #26
                        if I lived in Canada, I can tell you the $40 premium is still worth it.
                        When Neil turned me on to that stuff 10 years ago, I freaked out at how it suddenly solved all my problems with brightwork in a cold (45°F) garage. You use a capful in a quart. I still have the pint I bought 10 years ago.
                        -Shawn
                        "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                        "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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                        • Bayou Sailor
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2020
                          • 51

                          #27
                          Another one bites the dust!

                          Alternator is in and putting out 14.2 volts. The ammeter is working correctly, however why they put an ammeter with at +- 60 amp reading on this engine is kinda weird, but whatever. Per one suggestion, I will probably run the alternator directly to the battery and replace the ammeter with a voltmeter. Oh and the alternator did bolt right up with no issues. Thanks again for all of the help. Now I discovered a battery switch issue that I need to figure out. You may be hearing back from me soon. Fairwinds and Happy Thanksgiving!

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                          • Peter
                            Afourian MVP
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 298

                            #28
                            Originally posted by sastanley View Post
                            if I lived in Canada, I can tell you the $40 premium is still worth it.
                            When Neil turned me on to that stuff 10 years ago, I freaked out at how it suddenly solved all my problems with brightwork in a cold (45°F) garage. You use a capful in a quart. I still have the pint I bought 10 years ago.
                            Good to know - and for the Canucks, head over to Home Hardware

                            Get the KLENK'S Japan Dryer Oil-Based Paint Additive - 60 ml at your local Home Hardware store. Buy online and get Free Shipping to any Home location!


                            Best,

                            Peter

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                            • joe_db
                              Afourian MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 4527

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Bayou Sailor View Post
                              Alternator is in and putting out 14.2 volts. The ammeter is working correctly, however why they put an ammeter with at +- 60 amp reading on this engine is kinda weird, but whatever. Per one suggestion, I will probably run the alternator directly to the battery and replace the ammeter with a voltmeter. Oh and the alternator did bolt right up with no issues. Thanks again for all of the help. Now I discovered a battery switch issue that I need to figure out. You may be hearing back from me soon. Fairwinds and Happy Thanksgiving!
                              That could possibly explain what happened to your old alternator.
                              Joe Della Barba
                              Coquina
                              C&C 35 MK I
                              Maryland USA

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