Originally posted by Rando1201
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You violated 2 Prime Directives:
1. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
2. Don't fix 2 things at once.
Assuming you didn't do some third unknown thing, either the timing is too far off to even start or the plugs are too oil-fouled to fire. Or both.Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
Maryland USA
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Originally posted by joe_db View PostYou violated 2 Prime Directives:
1. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
2. Don't fix 2 things at once.
Assuming you didn't do some third unknown thing, either the timing is too far off to even start or the plugs are too oil-fouled to fire. Or both.
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Originally posted by Dave Neptune View PostHow did you reset the timing? Very small movements at a time!
The MMO will burn off and the plugs may be fouled.
No start = start from scratch.
Check for spark
Check for fuel
Compression probably still fine
Did you try using "motor crack" (start fluid)?
Dave Neptune
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The "continuity" method of setting timing won't work with most EI's. And with the power left on there is a good chance you fried another coil. They can't be left "on" long without running as they will overheat internally and open a winding!
Try this, get #1 on the compression stroke and as close to TDC as you can get it .
Now be sure the distributor is loose enough you can twist it by hand with little force.
Now remove the cap and check to see that the rotor is pointed at the #1 plug wire lug on the distributor. Adjust the rotation accordingly to line them up. And again be sure that the wires are in order and going to the correct plug.
Now it is time to try and start. Be sure the idle screw is about 1 3/4 turns off the seat, which would be a bit rich an a good carb and an easier start. Now spray a bit of motor crack in the throat of the carb and hit the key. If it starts let it warm a bit or give the distributor a twist first of about 1/4" (not much) either way if it improves try a bit more or if it's worse try the other way. Just get it to run for a bit so it's warmed up.
NOTE the distributor rotated at 1/2 speed so a 5* on the distributor is 10* of timing, so small twists!
Once warmed you can power time the engine or go through the process of setting a timing mark up your self, many of us have and most have not.
Dave Neptune
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Originally posted by Dave Neptune View PostThe "continuity" method of setting timing won't work with most EI's. And with the power left on there is a good chance you fried another coil. They can't be left "on" long without running as they will overheat internally and open a winding!
Try this, get #1 on the compression stroke and as close to TDC as you can get it .
Now be sure the distributor is loose enough you can twist it by hand with little force.
Now remove the cap and check to see that the rotor is pointed at the #1 plug wire lug on the distributor. Adjust the rotation accordingly to line them up. And again be sure that the wires are in order and going to the correct plug.
Now it is time to try and start. Be sure the idle screw is about 1 3/4 turns off the seat, which would be a bit rich an a good carb and an easier start. Now spray a bit of motor crack in the throat of the carb and hit the key. If it starts let it warm a bit or give the distributor a twist first of about 1/4" (not much) either way if it improves try a bit more or if it's worse try the other way. Just get it to run for a bit so it's warmed up.
NOTE the distributor rotated at 1/2 speed so a 5* on the distributor is 10* of timing, so small twists!
Once warmed you can power time the engine or go through the process of setting a timing mark up your self, many of us have and most have not.
Dave Neptune
Ok the power wasn't left on, it was only on while I was using the tester. About the coil, I did swap it out for one that requires a resistor, which I wired red from the distributor. I had a timing mark when I did this initially in my garage. Funny that the continuity method worked when I did this last april in my grage. but im gonna go back there tonight, and do it all over again. I messed something up.
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Originally posted by Dave Neptune View PostIf you are unsure of power timing send me a PM and I will try to talk you through it.
Dave Neptune
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Originally posted by Rando1201 View PostAlright so I went and reset the timing. Took me three tries. There's still some smoke, but much less at idle and I'm mainly only seeing it when I put a load on it in gear.Joe Della Barba
Coquina
C&C 35 MK I
Maryland USA
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Ok went down there today. Used the permatex #2 , almost fixed the leak. Also fixed my oil pressure adjustment valve. The engine seems pretty dialed. I ran the boat through out the harbor. Did big 360s used reverse. Tested doing bursts of throttle. At first I thought the engine had no power . I was kinda bummed, but now I am very very happy. Every thing is so smooth I mean its seamless from idle to gear. No bogging or lagging in the throttle acceleration. I think I may have a small exhaust leak or intake leak. I hear a very very slight hissing.
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