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  • bigal
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2006
    • 89

    #16
    Found the problem causing the leak at the thermostat housing studs; the thermostat housing has visible cracks in it. I believe it is an original casting and cracked when being torqued. Have a MMI housing on order. Hopefully this is the last f-up before launching.

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    • edwardc
      Afourian MVP
      • Aug 2009
      • 2511

      #17
      Originally posted by bigal View Post
      Found the problem causing the leak at the thermostat housing studs; the thermostat housing has visible cracks in it. I believe it is an original casting and cracked when being torqued.
      More likely is freeze damage from improper or late winterizing at some point in its life. I had one with cracks on both sides from the stud hole to the cooling passage due to freeze damage.
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      @(^.^)@ Ed
      1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
      with rebuilt Atomic-4

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      • bigal
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2006
        • 89

        #18
        That is exactly what mine looked like, but before the teardown it was not leaking. I had it bead blasted and some rusted thru holes appeared through the housing near the mounting holes that coincide with the cracks. I will post some pics when I get a chance. This was just another cast iron part that had rotted through. I should have known.

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        • bigal
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 89

          #19
          Her is the rotted thermostat housing.Click image for larger version

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          • Marty Levenson
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2004
            • 689

            #20
            good news...

            ...is that it's easy to fix!
            Marty
            1967 Tartan 27
            Bowen Island, BC

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            • bigal
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2006
              • 89

              #21
              Got the MMI thermostat housing and the bypass valve kit, installed them and the A4 is running as well as ever. I am running RWC, no thermostat right now and hope to control engine temp with the bypass valve. We are having our Pearson 36 launched tomorrow in Lewis Bay, Yarmouth MA,

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              • bigal
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2006
                • 89

                #22
                Launched successfully, of course mooring was not in and we picked up a mooring at which we almost immediately went aground (in muddy bottom); ended up waiting out the tide for 5 - 6 hours while the mooring was installed. The A4 runs well, but doesn't register a temperature above 100 degrees (no thermostat yet) and smokes a little when running at RPMs above 1800. Will add a quart of MMO next time we go out, but this is an old block with compression on the low end of the scale and is probably blowing oil by the rings. I guess this Overhaul thread is complete (successfully) and I may be posting in the Cooling discussion group to get a grip on the nuances of getting the RWC system to run at a more advantageous temperature.

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                • ndutton
                  Afourian MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 9776

                  #23
                  Your temperature is expected with RWC and no Tstat. I had a Tstat with RWC and the engine thought it was running above the Arctic Circle, the needle rarely moved off it's lowest reading, 100 degrees.
                  Neil
                  1977 Catalina 30
                  San Pedro, California
                  prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                  Had my hands in a few others

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                  • Baltimore Sailor
                    Afourian MVP
                    • May 2007
                    • 643

                    #24
                    I'm not sure whether to be jealous or not of these low temps. In the past year I've put in the new water pump, rebuilt my entire hot section, replaced the exhaust manifold, and done a muriatic acid flush.

                    I still run around 180 even with my bypass valve complete closed and sending all the water through the block, and it even trended up around 190 on a very long run home (2 hours) at 2000 rpm, which is just about my optimum cruising rps. I get 5.7 kt or so at that speed on a 28' boat.

                    The engine runs and sounds great, and the water batches like crazy out the exhaust, but the relative high temps puzzle me.

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                    • JOHN COOKSON
                      Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 3501

                      #25
                      Baltimore
                      Are you RWC?
                      Somewhere I've seen a series of graphs in the forum that plot hose size and engine RPM vs water output through the engine.
                      As an approximate frame of reference I hooked a hose to the manifold output and stood in the cockpit with the other end in my hand, revved the engine up and shot a stream of water into the cockpit of my neighbor's boat.
                      I suppose you have been down this road already?
                      I run at 150* cruise and close to 160* when I idle back from running at cruise for a while. I consider this to be normal.

                      TRUE GRIT

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                      • Baltimore Sailor
                        Afourian MVP
                        • May 2007
                        • 643

                        #26
                        Well, no, I haven't attempted to spray my neighbor's boat with water.

                        My hose sizes are as described in the A4 manual. I can't remember off the top of my head what they are, but they're the standard.

                        I thought one time that maybe the intake was blocked with growth, but that's not the case.

                        Can running rich cause an overheat condition?

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                        • bigal
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 89

                          #27
                          John - I am running RWC, no thermostat, with a bypass valve and check valve (MMI kit). I wanted to make sure we didn't overheat during the launch so I didn't introduce a thermostat into the mix, but will add one soon. Hope to achieve the 150 - 160 degree temperature that you report.

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