Funny A4 story..and valve job question

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  • bigoledave
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 69

    Funny A4 story..and valve job question

    Greetings,

    I have had my Columbia 29, 1965 since 1989 and still love it.
    My A4 now has a compression pattern of:

    105 psi
    38
    102
    30

    If I put oil in each cylinder and repeat the results
    are not much changed. I conclude that the valves
    are bad or not seating well in two cylinders.

    My plan is to remove the head and valves and inspect
    closely. How does one grind the seats in an A4? Are
    there special tools required?

    My funniest A4 story is when I sucked up water in very rough
    seas a few years back and flooded the engine with saltwater.
    I removed the plugs and cranked a lot then added oil drops.
    By this time my battery was too low to crank it over fast
    enough to restart it. My solution was to install just ONE
    spark plug.....I then got it actually running with three plugs
    out....and kept adding plugs to get back to four. I swear
    it's true. Keep it mind for when your battery is low and you don't
    have a hand crank.

    Dave
  • Seabee Chief
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 37

    #2
    A few things to check

    Dave,
    I'm no expert, but I have had simular issues.
    It is either the valves of head gasket.
    Check the plug condition upon removal. They can tell you a story. Are the wet or dry?
    You should be able to see all the valves without removing the head. The ones forward of the spark plugs are diffucult, but you should be able to shine a light. I can't help you with the valve info. Sorry
    That is a good story and makes sense.
    That is what is great about the A4. It always wants to run!

    Chief

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    • bigoledave
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 69

      #3
      Cheif,

      I put on a new head a year ago.....since the low cylinders
      are not adjacent I think it is the valves. I have pulled the
      side cover and "pinged" them closed to make sure the
      springs are ok and the valves have some gap clearance.

      I am going to pull the head....just wondering about how
      one "faces" the valve seats. I want to get all valves
      ground or replaced and do the seats. Since the other
      2 cylinders have 100 psi I think the rings are OK and I
      don't want to pull the whole engine.

      Thanks for your feedback.

      Dave

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      • Boilerbob7
        Frequent Contributor
        • Oct 2010
        • 9

        #4
        Valve Lapping

        The standard procedure for doing valves on old flathead engines was to remove the cylinder head, disconnect them and then "lap" them with grinding compound. For disconnecting them, a spring compression tool was used, being careful not to drop any of the keepers into the oil pan. You would use "coarse" compound, then use "fine" compound. A suction cup on a stick was used, and some engines had two shallow holes on the valves for a special tool to lap the valves. A soft pencil was used to draw several lines vertically on the lapped surfaces and then give them a slight rotation. If all the lines were partially erased, you were good. Any old timers recall this procedure?

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