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  • mary
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 60

    Exhaust leaking and rotted through

    Hello Afourians,

    when I started my engine yesterday, I noticed exhaust down below. Upon further inspection I found salt water escaping through a hole in the exhaust right above the water injection. The pipe easily split in half when I started working on removing the hoses.

    Any tips as far as what to replace it with? Stainless steel or bronze? I'm looking for the least expensive, yet sufficiently good quality solution.

    Should this section be wrapped with high heat tape?

    Thank you!
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  • JOHN COOKSON
    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
    • Nov 2008
    • 3501

    #2
    Use black iron pipe to rebuild the hot section. If the exhaust has been working in a satisfactory manner just replace what you have. If not this is the time to modify it. I was able to remove the flange and the injection part and take them to a machine shop, get them cleaned up and reuse them. The charge was only $30.00 for the work.
    The hot section should be wrapped with two or three layers of fiberglass exhaust wrap to keep the heat in the exhaust. As I recall MMI sells the wrap. Also available online or through West Marine.

    TRUE GRIT

    Edit: Forgot to mention the hot section is 1 1/4" standard plumbing nipples and angle pieces. Available at a hardware store or plumbing supply store. I took what was left of the old hot section to the store and matched up the various pieces.
    Last edited by JOHN COOKSON; 05-29-2017, 11:32 PM.

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    • roadnsky
      Afourian MVP
      • Dec 2008
      • 3127

      #3
      Another good reason to wrap the hot section (pipe) is to help ward off corrosion which is obviously what killed that section.
      It also appears that some water has been leaking on it.
      Do you know the source?
      -Jerry

      'Lone Ranger'
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      1978 RANGER 30

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      • mary
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2017
        • 60

        #4
        Thank you. You answered all my questions.

        Originally posted by JOHN COOKSON View Post
        Use black iron pipe to rebuild the hot section. If the exhaust has been working in a satisfactory manner just replace what you have. If not this is the time to modify it. I was able to remove the flange and the injection part and take them to a machine shop, get them cleaned up and reuse them. The charge was only $30.00 for the work.
        The hot section should be wrapped with two or three layers of fiberglass exhaust wrap to keep the heat in the exhaust. As I recall MMI sells the wrap. Also available online or through West Marine.

        TRUE GRIT

        Edit: Forgot to mention the hot section is 1 1/4" standard plumbing nipples and angle pieces. Available at a hardware store or plumbing supply store. I took what was left of the old hot section to theca store and matched up the various pieces.

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        • mary
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 60

          #5
          Thank you.

          Salt water was squirting out the holes when I moved from one slip to another the other day, hence the water marks.

          Originally posted by roadnsky View Post
          Another good reason to wrap the hot section (pipe) is to help ward off corrosion which is obviously what killed that section.
          It also appears that some water has been leaking on it.
          Do you know the source?

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          • Ken Rockwell
            Senior Member
            • May 2017
            • 75

            #6
            I don't like the idea of water sitting in that pipe. I would try to reroute it so water drains out. Of course, sometimes there's no way around it

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            • edwardc
              Afourian MVP
              • Aug 2009
              • 2511

              #7
              Originally posted by Ken Rockwell View Post
              I don't like the idea of water sitting in that pipe. I would try to reroute it so water drains out. Of course, sometimes there's no way around it
              I think that photo is rotated sideways (look at the bit of the head & block that is visible). Looks like the pipe actually heads downwards at about a 45 degree angle, so no standing water or backflow.
              @(^.^)@ Ed
              1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
              with rebuilt Atomic-4

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              • mary
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2017
                • 60

                #8
                Yes, the photo rotated when I uploaded it. Not sure why.

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                • HOTFLASH
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 210

                  #9
                  Another alternative for exhaust piping

                  You might consider "Schedule 80" SS pipes--a bit thicker and pricier but are sturdier and last longer for the short run of a dry section. Can be found at McMaster-Carr.

                  Mary
                  HotFlash
                  T27 Yawl

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                  • mary
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2017
                    • 60

                    #10
                    After getting the right socket, the flange came off easily.

                    Next two questions:

                    Should coolant leak out of the hole where the flange bolt was? Some dribbled out of the top hole. I replaced the bolt to stop it.

                    If I cut the exhaust hose shorter to remove it from the barb end of the injection portion, is it acceptable to splice a new piece in to cover the length that was cut? It would be simpler than adding length to the hot section or replacing the entire hose and possibly easier to remove and replace next time.

                    Waiting patiently for your replies, hacksaw in hand.

                    Thank you! Mary
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                    • mary
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2017
                      • 60

                      #11
                      The rest of it.
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                      • mary
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2017
                        • 60

                        #12
                        Ok, never mind. I hacked it out and I'll just remove it from the muffler and replace it.

                        What's up with all this pvc? Is that legit?
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                        • mary
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 60

                          #13
                          Photos rotated again.. not sure to fix that

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                          • ndutton
                            Afourian MVP
                            • May 2009
                            • 9776

                            #14
                            Mary, please go to the forum's ABYC Standards category, open the ABYC exhaust standards and at the top of the sixth page of the pdf attachment is a table that lists the approved materials for gasoline engine exhaust systems. Dry exhaust refers to our hot sections (before the water injection fitting) and Wet exhaust refers to everything down stream of the water injection.

                            You won't find PVC anywhere on the table.
                            Neil
                            1977 Catalina 30
                            San Pedro, California
                            prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                            Had my hands in a few others

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                            • mary
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 60

                              #15
                              Thank you, Neil. I'll be replacing that also.

                              There's also a pvc shut off valve that is installed in place of a seacock. What a dangerous thing to have on a boat. I understand that I am in a live and learn situation, but it would have been nice if my surveyor had brought some of these things to my attention.

                              busy day tomorrow.

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