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  • BunnyPlanet169
    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
    • May 2010
    • 967

    #16
    Originally posted by BunnyPlanet169 View Post
    Old diode combiners lost at least 0.7v, newer Shottky diode combiners less, but still at least 0.15v. I can't find a good number for a MOSFET SSR, it really depends on the manufacturer.... I was expecting < 0.1, but now I'm curious.
    Not to draw you in Neil , but to close the loop. I learned something today:

    I always figured from the packaging and voltage sensing application notes that the Blue Sea ACR was entirely solid state, and I learned that's wrong. It's mechanical contacts, ignition proof, and the voltage drop should be zero across the 7610 ACR.
    Jeff

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    • joe_db
      Afourian MVP
      • May 2009
      • 4527

      #17
      I have experimented turning the emergency parallel switch on and off and there is no change from the voltages when the ACR combines.
      Joe Della Barba
      Coquina
      C&C 35 MK I
      Maryland USA

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      • ndutton
        Afourian MVP
        • May 2009
        • 9776

        #18
        Joe & Jeff,
        I've heard that before - some ACR's and/or combiners have less of a voltage hit than others but still, for the user-owner who is not an electrical professional trying to troubleshoot a problem, these automated devices complicate matters exponentially.

        Simon,
        14.8 volts?? Man, that's aggressive! Here's one more for good measure:
        Neil
        1977 Catalina 30
        San Pedro, California
        prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
        Had my hands in a few others

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        • marginal
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 26

          #19
          Yeah....it's adjustable, so I might turn the wick down a little.
          The guy at the shop looked up the original one, and said it was spec'd at 15V.
          I talked him down a bit.

          In the boat it runs closer to 14.5 (lower rpm?) until the ACR clicks in, then drops to about 13.8 due to the depleted house battery I think. I'll keep an eye on it over the next few trips as the batteries charge up.

          Simon
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          • joe_db
            Afourian MVP
            • May 2009
            • 4527

            #20
            Mine has an off switch
            Definitely turn the voltage down. 14.8 is a tad bit high. I worked on a boat with a generator that put out that much and the owner was forever buying new start batteries for it.


            Originally posted by ndutton View Post
            Joe & Jeff,
            I've heard that before - some ACR's and/or combiners have less of a voltage hit than others but still, for the user-owner who is not an electrical professional trying to troubleshoot a problem, these automated devices complicate matters exponentially.

            Simon,
            14.8 volts?? Man, that's aggressive! Here's one more for good measure:
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            Joe Della Barba
            Coquina
            C&C 35 MK I
            Maryland USA

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            • ndutton
              Afourian MVP
              • May 2009
              • 9776

              #21
              Simon,
              Points or electronic ignition? This question looms large now.
              Neil
              1977 Catalina 30
              San Pedro, California
              prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
              Had my hands in a few others

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              • marginal
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 26

                #22
                I'll admit I've never taken the distributor cap off since I've owned the boat, but points I think. Got several old sets, and condensers, in the spare tub.
                Simon
                1981 C&C 30 MK1 "Starlight" #657
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                • Roadking Larry
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2014
                  • 51

                  #23
                  I've got 2 spare sets of points, 1 still new in the box, the old set is stuffed in the box the electronic ignition parts came in.
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                  • marginal
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 26

                    #24
                    Point taken.
                    There is no external evidence of electronic ignition.
                    Do any of the systems available fit wholly within the distributor?

                    I suppose I could whip the cap off, but it runs like a top right now, so I'm disinclined to mess with it

                    Thanks
                    Simon
                    Simon
                    1981 C&C 30 MK1 "Starlight" #657
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                    • BunnyPlanet169
                      Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                      • May 2010
                      • 967

                      #25
                      A quick visual check: I believe old style points should only have one black wire entering the distributor, the electronic version from MMI will have two (red and black).
                      Jeff

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                      1971 Bristol 29 #169

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