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  • goodoldboat
    Senior Member
    • May 2017
    • 130

    replacing impeller

    think my Impeller needs replacing ...

    other than the new impeller which I have .. what tools do i need ..

    Is there an new gasket needed ?

    I want to have every I need on hand .
    S/V Gosling
    Westport CT .

    “Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing- as simply messing about in boats.”
    ― Kenneth Grahame
  • ndutton
    Afourian MVP
    • May 2009
    • 9776

    #2
    Assuming you have an Oberdorfer pump (probably the most common) you'll need:
    • Screwdriver for the cover machine screws
    • Needle nose pliers to grab the impeller+shaft assembly and pull it out of the pump
    • Snap ring pliers
    • Impeller
    • New cover plate gasket - you can make a temporary gasket out of a dollar bill until your MMI order arrives
    • Grease for the grease cup


    If removing the pump to perform the replacement (not absolutely necessary but recommended), add:
    • 9/16" socket, extension, ratchet, possibly box wrench
    • New flange gasket
    Neil
    1977 Catalina 30
    San Pedro, California
    prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
    Had my hands in a few others

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    • romantic comedy
      Afourian MVP
      • May 2007
      • 1943

      #3
      I have had success with making the gasket from paper grocery bags.

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      • goodoldboat
        Senior Member
        • May 2017
        • 130

        #4
        water pump

        its a late model engine . so I assume its an oberdorfer.
        S/V Gosling
        Westport CT .

        “Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing- as simply messing about in boats.”
        ― Kenneth Grahame

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        • JOHN COOKSON
          Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
          • Nov 2008
          • 3501

          #5
          GOB
          Before you order pull the shaft out of the pump. If the shaft is scored where it contacts the seals you will need a new shaft and new seals. If the pump is not leaking now with a scored shaft it will soon start leaking.
          I use boat trailed waterproof wheel bearing grease in my grease cup. It works well. Way back many years ago one could buy "water pump grease". Good luck finding it now days. Maybe it is sold on line. I've never checked.

          TRUE GRIT

          Edit: Order more than one gasket. That way you will have a spare when you need it.
          Last edited by JOHN COOKSON; 08-06-2017, 01:06 AM.

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          • goodoldboat
            Senior Member
            • May 2017
            • 130

            #6
            impeller

            Thanks to all the good advice on this . The new impeller will be quite stiff , is there any method used to install the new impeller in the housing ?
            S/V Gosling
            Westport CT .

            “Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing- as simply messing about in boats.”
            ― Kenneth Grahame

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            • GregH
              Afourian MVP
              • Jun 2015
              • 598

              #7
              So what do you folks recommend for us Canucks and our plastic bills?

              - and I haven't seen paper bags in years! Lol
              Greg
              1975 Alberg 30
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              • ndutton
                Afourian MVP
                • May 2009
                • 9776

                #8
                Originally posted by GregH View Post
                So what do you folks recommend for us Canucks and our plastic bills?
                Send a few of them to MMI and get real gaskets in return.
                Neil
                1977 Catalina 30
                San Pedro, California
                prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                Had my hands in a few others

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                • roadnsky
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3127

                  #9
                  Originally posted by goodoldboat View Post
                  its a late model engine . so I assume its an oberdorfer.
                  Does it look like one of these two?
                  Attached Files
                  -Jerry

                  'Lone Ranger'
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                  1978 RANGER 30

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                  • JOHN COOKSON
                    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 3501

                    #10
                    Originally posted by goodoldboat View Post
                    The new impeller will be quite stiff , is there any method used to install the new impeller in the housing ?
                    Bend the impeller blades and twist it a bit as you install it. If he blades are to stiff to install the new impeller easily toss it it's pretty much a goner.

                    TRUE GRIT
                    Last edited by JOHN COOKSON; 08-06-2017, 01:47 PM.

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                    • Nanook
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 17

                      #11
                      Like many things in life, a little lube goes a long way. A little mineral oil, Vaseline, olive oil, etc. rubbed on the inside of the housing and/or across the edges of the blades really helps prevent premature burnout if there is an initial delay in water flow.

                      Some folks have used some light line wrapped around the impellor to bend the blades into initial shape. It can be pulled off the rubber after it is started into the hole and before fully bottomed out.

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                      • GregH
                        Afourian MVP
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 598

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ndutton View Post
                        Send a few of them to MMI and get real gaskets in return.

                        On my to do list already ... and more things like the harness kit, water pump back plate kit, water pump bolt extender, etc etc..
                        Greg
                        1975 Alberg 30
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                        • sastanley
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 7030

                          #13
                          So, GOB, what indications makes you think the impeller needs replacing?

                          A valid answer is, "I have no idea when the PO did it..", or "The engine has several hundred hours on it since it was replaced last."..

                          I am just asking.
                          -Shawn
                          "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                          "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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                          • goodoldboat
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2017
                            • 130

                            #14
                            impeller

                            the engine is running a little warm and seeing steam out of the
                            rear exhaust under load .I have checked all the 90 * elbows raw water input done an acid wash installed the by pass valve ..

                            and the
                            water flow from rear manifold outlet is not what it should be .

                            The PO says that is twas done last season .. but he was a little fuzzy ...

                            I figured it couldn't hurt to take a look at the impeller ? its the last invasive
                            thing to look at ?
                            S/V Gosling
                            Westport CT .

                            “Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing- as simply messing about in boats.”
                            ― Kenneth Grahame

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                            • sastanley
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 7030

                              #15
                              Hmmm..OK, I dunno then. my water temp on the motor varies with sea water temp...and I am FWC.

                              What I was getting at is a new impeller should perform the same as an old impeller provided all the vanes are intact. A new impeller is not going to magically pump more water thru the system and cool the engine down.
                              -Shawn
                              "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                              "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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