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  • JOHN COOKSON
    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
    • Nov 2008
    • 3501

    #31
    Don't forget to confirm the choke is closing all the way.

    TRUE GRIT

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    • Marty Levenson
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2004
      • 689

      #32
      success!

      Wired up the recharged batteries, checked one plug for spark, saw it was yellow. Tried the primary coil wire, saw it too was weak. Changed the coil and she fired right up. Ahhhhh.

      Had an issue with stalling below 1500 RPM, so reset the carb mixture control. Perfect!

      Next question is trusting the temp gauge, as it didn't seem to move after ten minutes running, five in gear. Next weekend they have to move the boat about two hours away, where she will be on a mooring, so a bit of a rush now. I have a cheapo infrared temp gun to loan them - would that be good enough for the journey? Can't see why not.

      Thanks for all the support - writing and feedback help me clarify how to proceed. For the new boat owners it has been a quick, effective learning curve.
      Marty
      1967 Tartan 27
      Bowen Island, BC

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      • JOHN COOKSON
        Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
        • Nov 2008
        • 3501

        #33
        Three Cheers For Marty

        Marty
        You handled this situation like a true Afourian.
        It is good to have high caliber people like you on board.
        You can work on my engine any time.

        TRUE GRIT

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        • Marty Levenson
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2004
          • 689

          #34
          hook

          Thanks, John. It really is fun, and they are nice people, but really the hook is solving the puzzle! (plus I brush up on my troubleshooting skills).
          Marty
          1967 Tartan 27
          Bowen Island, BC

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          • CalebD
            Afourian MVP
            • May 2007
            • 900

            #35
            Good job Marty. You get good karma points while brushing up your troubleshooting skills. Win-win.
            Tartan 27 #328 owner born 1958
            A4 and boat are from 1967

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            • Marian Claire
              Afourian MVP
              • Aug 2007
              • 1769

              #36
              Good karma is right. Well done.
              I have an inexpensive oven thermometer as a back up, the flat base is wedged in between the head and manifold. It reads about 15 to 20 degrees above my gauge. The temp sensor for the gauge is mounted at the exit of the manifold.


              Dan S/V Marian Claire

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              • sastanley
                Afourian MVP
                • Sep 2008
                • 7030

                #37
                Marty, I do not see any reason why a handheld temp gun would not be sufficient. I recommend getting some readings before the journey (tied to the dock), so they know what to expect, or to see anypotential issues before departing.
                -Shawn
                "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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                • Marty Levenson
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 689

                  #38
                  rich/lean

                  To get a good idle we had to adjust the carb's rich/lean screw all the way in (rich). I was wondering if that would indicate that the distributor needs to be turned clockwise slightly?

                  If so, would the procedure be to turn the rich/lean screw out a full turn, start the engine, and then rotate the dist until able to find a good idle?

                  Never understood why retard/advance od the dist affects richness...?

                  Thanks!
                  Marty
                  1967 Tartan 27
                  Bowen Island, BC

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                  • JOHN COOKSON
                    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 3501

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Marty Levenson View Post
                    To get a good idle we had to adjust the carb's rich/lean screw all the way in (rich). I was wondering if that would indicate that the distributor needs to be turned clockwise slightly?
                    If so, would the procedure be to turn the rich/lean screw out a full turn, start the engine, and then rotate the dist until able to find a good idle?
                    Never understood why retard/advance od the dist affects richness...?
                    Thanks!
                    Retard/advance does not affect the rich/lean/speed idle setting on the carb.
                    The best way to summarize is to say is carburetor rich/lean/speed setting will compensate for problems or settings in the ignition system. Said another way sometimes it is necessary to increase to increase idle speed/richness to get the engine to idle when there are problems in the ignition side.
                    The first step is to get the ignition side correct or as correct as possible. Then play idle speed against idle richness until you have a satisfactory idle. If you can't get a decent idle this way you need to look a bit deeper. Maybe there is crud in the carb idle circuit or something not right with the distributor. Be sure the advance is working correctly. Often over looked.
                    I was able to get my idle down to ~ 600 RPM this way. I can shift on to and out of gear at idle and the engine does not die. I'm so close to the edge if I don't get the dwell setting absolutely correct the engine will not idle at all. It dies when I try to idle it.

                    TRUE GRIT

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