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  • Cool Beans
    • Mar 2011
    • 239

    Removing engine via brute strength?

    If I don't do this soon, I will have procrastinated the off season away

    I've been hoping a rebuildable engine would show up on Craigslist, but no luck these last few months, so I need to get it out soon if I'm going to do this.

    I've read on how to use the boom and halyard to get the engine up and into the cockpit. What I'd like to know is how to get it from there to the dock. I was thinking of stripping the block of the flywheel and housing, manifold, alternator, and starter. Once in the cockpit, I was thinking to fasten 2-2x6's together and with me on one end and a buddy on the other, lift and walk it off onto the finger pier then up to the dock.

    Thoughts?

    Thanks!
  • Marian Claire
    Afourian MVP
    • Aug 2007
    • 1769

    #2
    I used the boom to swing the A-4 onto the finger pier. Set it on a small piece of plywood and drug it, using the webbing sling I had rigged for lifting, onto the main dock. Then three of us lifted it into a cart and from the cart to the truck bed. Even with starter, head, alt, etc removed it was still "not easy". Lifting by hand on a boat in the water, unstable, would be even harder IMO.
    Dan S/V Marian Claire

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    • romantic comedy
      Afourian MVP
      • May 2007
      • 1943

      #3
      I found that getting the engine from the cockpit to t he dock was quite easy with the boom and halyard set up.

      It swung over and I placed it right on a dolly. I only removed the carb, alternator and water pump.

      Hardest part was getting up into my pick up.

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      • BunnyPlanet169
        Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
        • May 2010
        • 967

        #4
        I did mine on the hard, and found that once the head, flywheel, starter, alternator, and manifold were removed I could skid it around pretty easily. It's still heavy, but it'll move when you drag it.



        WATCH OUT FOR OIL! There is no front seal, only an oil-slinger. If you tilt the engine forward (flywheel), you'll get oil everywhere. It just pours out. I've done this. Twice. It's a mess.
        Jeff

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        S/V Bunny Planet
        1971 Bristol 29 #169

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        • joe_db
          Afourian MVP
          • May 2009
          • 4527

          #5
          Two strong people can carry it if you take the starter, alternator, and manifold off. I used to that and then some years of back treatments later, I no longer try and lift heavy hunks of iron.
          I am bow-in to my slip and have done it a couple of ways:
          1. Used the main halyard to get the engine amidships and then used a spinaker halyard to go forward onto the dock. We used another line from across the dock to pull the engine forward.
          2. Used the boom to lower the engine onto the marina float and then towed it around to the dinghy haul out and used the lift crane to pull the engine up and lower it into a truck and then reverse process to get the new one to the boat.
          Joe Della Barba
          Coquina
          C&C 35 MK I
          Maryland USA

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          • Al Schober
            Afourian MVP
            • Jul 2009
            • 2024

            #6
            Swinging the engine to the bulkhead using the boom is easy.
            Recommend you only use the boom as an outhaul for the halyard - don't put the boom in bending. Your topping lift will hold the boom at the right height. Use a snatch block from the end of the boom to the halyard to move the halyard away from the mast.
            I like to strip the engine down before moving it. Not too tough to take 100 lbs off the engine before you hoist it out.

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            • sastanley
              Afourian MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 7030

              #7
              Hey, Russ!

              Paging lat64..lat64..you're needed in the OR, stat.

              Here is a pic of Russ removing his motor a while back.

              Last edited by sastanley; 12-15-2014, 02:38 PM.
              -Shawn
              "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
              "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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              • joe_db
                Afourian MVP
                • May 2009
                • 4527

                #8
                New A4 delivery
                Attached Files
                Joe Della Barba
                Coquina
                C&C 35 MK I
                Maryland USA

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                • edwardc
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2511

                  #9
                  A warning. If you use the boom to swing the engine out onto a finger pier, be sure to rig some kind of preventer to the boom to control it as it swings out.

                  I saw a horrifying video of a couple removing their A4 without a preventer. As they swung it out, the boat heeled and the boom got away from them. In a flash, the boom swung way out, the boat heeled wildly, the A4 hit the pier, the (unsecured) hook holding it let go, the A4 came off, and the boat popped back upright, leaving the A4 sitting pretty on the finger dock! And two stunned people! A couple of inches either way and the results would not have been so pretty!
                  @(^.^)@ Ed
                  1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
                  with rebuilt Atomic-4

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                  • joe_db
                    Afourian MVP
                    • May 2009
                    • 4527

                    #10
                    I want to see that!
                    Joe Della Barba
                    Coquina
                    C&C 35 MK I
                    Maryland USA

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                    • marthur
                      Afourian MVP
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 844

                      #11
                      horrifying video
                      Link please!
                      Mike

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                      • joe_db
                        Afourian MVP
                        • May 2009
                        • 4527

                        #12
                        How NOT to do it:
                        While on mooring - lift engine with boom, lower into dinghy.
                        Take dinghy to dock.
                        Climb out of dinghy and look at engine with stupid expression.
                        Find lumber at construction site next door and make a ramp.
                        Pull engine up ramp onto dock.
                        Put engine on piece of wood.
                        Drag engine to beach.
                        Get wife's car.
                        Drive car on beach.
                        Look at engine with stupid expression.
                        Go back to boat and get lifting tackle.
                        Tie tackle to tree branch and lift engine.
                        Back car up to engine.
                        Have forward end of engine lower than aft end (do not skip this step).
                        Have wife arrive while lowering engine.
                        Have wife inquire as to why engine is draining entire oil supply into her car
                        Join witness protection and move to another state
                        Joe Della Barba
                        Coquina
                        C&C 35 MK I
                        Maryland USA

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                        • edwardc
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2511

                          #13
                          Originally posted by marthur View Post
                          Link please!
                          Unfortunately, I didn't keep the link. I'll see if I can dig it out of my browser history, but it's been quite a while.

                          EDIT: No luck finding it.
                          Last edited by edwardc; 12-16-2014, 08:36 PM.
                          @(^.^)@ Ed
                          1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
                          with rebuilt Atomic-4

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                          • lat 64
                            Afourian MVP
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1994

                            #14
                            Thanks Shawn,

                            Here's a link to that thread:



                            Russ
                            sigpic Whiskeyjack a '68 Columbia 36 rebuilt A-4 with 2:1

                            "Since when is napping doing nothing?"

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                            • Al Schober
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 2024

                              #15
                              joe db,
                              Thing is, the engine didn't mind that abuse one bit! The engine's only concern was: 'Please don't leave me here in the sand below the high tide line.."

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