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  • goodoldboat
    Senior Member
    • May 2017
    • 130

    stuffing box drips

    while working on installing new exhaust system I was noticing the stuffing box
    dripping ..

    it may be as high as 30 drops a minute ? I think that alot of water .
    does anyone have any thoughts ?
    S/V Gosling
    Westport CT .

    “Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing- as simply messing about in boats.”
    ― Kenneth Grahame
  • romantic comedy
    Afourian MVP
    • May 2007
    • 1943

    #2
    when was it packed or adjusted last?

    Is it easy to access?

    Yes 30 is too much. a few is ok. Mine does not drip and runs cool.

    The best thing is to see if it just needs a bit of tightening. but most likely you would want to repack it. There are different types of packing available. I like the PTFE stuff. Usually you can fit three rings of packing in the nut part. Space the joints 120 degrees apart.

    Also check the shaft for scoring that would make a good seal difficult. If that seems to be the case you can change the length of the packing hose.

    Make sure the clamps on the hose are serviceable.

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    • JOHN COOKSON
      Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
      • Nov 2008
      • 3501

      #3
      The correct drip rate depends on who you talk to. I like 4 drops per minute. 30 drops per minute is to high as RC said. Try tightening the packing nut one flat.
      In general if you can't get the drip rate you want and have the packing as cool as the surrounding water you need to repack.

      TRUE GRIT

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      • ndutton
        Afourian MVP
        • May 2009
        • 9776

        #4
        From the forum's Standards category:


        The more the stuffing box is tightened, the more friction is applied to the shaft that can result in shaft scoring. Further, that friction adds drag to the driveline, enough to stall the engine particularly at low RPM. There comes a time the packing needs replacement, it doesn't last forever.
        Neil
        1977 Catalina 30
        San Pedro, California
        prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
        Had my hands in a few others

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        • Administrator
          MMI Webmaster
          • Oct 2004
          • 2195

          #5
          For reference, 30 drops per minute equates to a bit more than a half-gallon per day.

          Bill

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          • goodoldboat
            Senior Member
            • May 2017
            • 130

            #6
            packing gland

            i was told from the PO that the shaft and cutless bearing were done
            5 years ago .

            what tools does one need to tighten the packing gland .

            it looks like it takes a pipe wrench or two .
            S/V Gosling
            Westport CT .

            “Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing- as simply messing about in boats.”
            ― Kenneth Grahame

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            • JOHN COOKSON
              Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
              • Nov 2008
              • 3501

              #7
              Yes. One wrench to hold and one to twist.
              Hint: Before you try to loosen the lock nut and the packing nut hit the whole shebang with with a liberal dose of PBblaster for two or three days. If you put a rag under the area it will keep the PB blaster from running down into the bilge.

              TRUE GRIT

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              • ndutton
                Afourian MVP
                • May 2009
                • 9776

                #8
                Assuming the jam nut is tight against the stuffing box please remember the dripping isn't because it fell out of adjustment. The flax wears and doesn't last forever.
                Neil
                1977 Catalina 30
                San Pedro, California
                prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                Had my hands in a few others

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                • goodoldboat
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2017
                  • 130

                  #9
                  drip rate

                  I can only assume that this drip will get worse as the season goes on ?
                  When the shaft is spinning does it swell thereby slowing the drip ?
                  S/V Gosling
                  Westport CT .

                  “Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing- as simply messing about in boats.”
                  ― Kenneth Grahame

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                  • ndutton
                    Afourian MVP
                    • May 2009
                    • 9776

                    #10
                    As the flax wears the drip rate increases. At some point continued tightening to manage the drip will harm the shaft and produce shaft drag and heat in use. The expansion from heat could reduce drip but I wouldn't consider it a strategy.

                    Sooner or later the flax will need replacement. Depending on access, it can be done in the water. It's unnerving the first time but after you're done you'll wonder what all the fuss was about.
                    Neil
                    1977 Catalina 30
                    San Pedro, California
                    prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                    Had my hands in a few others

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                    • Boat
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2014
                      • 171

                      #11
                      everything depends on the current state of his packing. give it a try. nothing to loose. i just did mine, but mine was more than 30, it was a "Holy Sh** i should tighten that up. loosened the jam nut, one flat turn and no leak even when running. ran it at the dock in gear for a good half hour and infared temp gun said 60 degrees good to go. it maybe something that simple
                      '69 Newport 30 MKI Hull #20

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                      • goodoldboat
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2017
                        • 130

                        #12
                        drip rate

                        okay so tightening is in the cards ..Just e mailed PO as to when it was tightened last , if it was a while ago I may have a full turn /

                        I do not think i have the nerve to repack in the water , so I have to hit the wrenches, stat tuned folks ....
                        S/V Gosling
                        Westport CT .

                        “Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing- as simply messing about in boats.”
                        ― Kenneth Grahame

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                        • romantic comedy
                          Afourian MVP
                          • May 2007
                          • 1943

                          #13
                          it is no big deal to repack in the water. You remove the nut and water flows in. If it worries you, you just pack something in there between the shaft and the box.

                          Then you will know exactly what is in there! You will get a look at the shaft where the packing runs.

                          The most important think is to keep water out of the boat!!!

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                          • sastanley
                            Afourian MVP
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 7030

                            #14
                            gob, you can do it with two pipe wrenches...and sometimes one pipe wrench and one large set of lock jaw pliers...or spanner wrenches which look like big adjustable wrenches but are straight on..no kink.
                            -Shawn
                            "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                            "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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                            • ndutton
                              Afourian MVP
                              • May 2009
                              • 9776

                              #15
                              I prefer an adjustable stuffing box wrench and a monkey wrench. The serrations in the jaws of a pipe wrench and pliers of any sort will damage the soft bronze stuffing box.
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                              Neil
                              1977 Catalina 30
                              San Pedro, California
                              prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                              Had my hands in a few others

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