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  • marthur
    Afourian MVP
    • Dec 2004
    • 844

    Saving another motor!

    I thought I'd start another of my favorite genre: rebuild threads! Here is the before:






    Mike
  • Marian Claire
    Afourian MVP
    • Aug 2007
    • 1769

    #2
    From the "tomb stone cover " and the oil dip stick looks early to me and I am envious. Have fun . Dan S/V Marian Claire

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    • Scuppers
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 43

      #3
      Hope you continue with the photos and documentation. I would like to find a "junk" engine and restore, then swap out with the my "daily" driver. Back in my high school days I use to was into Triumphs - as you might know they require a lot of hands on.

      ml
      "The greatest tragedy in life is people who have sight but no vision." Helen Keller

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      • marthur
        Afourian MVP
        • Dec 2004
        • 844

        #4
        Dan is right, it is an early model (block cast in 1964). Compression seemed OK when tested and under the surface rust the block has lots of "meat" left. I REALLY like the built in oil-pump. It will have the delco starter when I am done, though.



        So far I have cleaned up the valves, begun to acquire parts, wire brushed, changed oil, etc... I am currently painting and beginning to re-assemble. Here is an "after" photo of the valves (Notice that I am giving the rings a good soak in MMO):


        Here is a photo of the brass pipe plug I installed when modifying the accessory drive:
        Mike

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        • arthur
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 30

          #5
          engine restoration

          great job looks like a good winter project wish i could find something like that around the Chesapeake area having fun an learning at the same time you cant do anything like that an not learn something go luck art.

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          • marthur
            Afourian MVP
            • Dec 2004
            • 844

            #6
            The motor is also mostly back together and it is painted. The color is "New Ford Gray" and the paint is Duplicolor high temperature engine paint. We'll see how it lasts. I do have to say that I like the painted spark plugs.

            I am using a late model starter and carb. Naturally, I replaced the fly wheel as well. The carb is soaking overnight but is the next item to be rebuilt. A few miscellaneous items remain, but there are two big items on the list before start-up:
            1. Parts: I am still looking for a used mechanical fuel pump and flame arrestor assembly (late model carb).
            2. Water jacket side plate--two bolts won't torque up. I May have to go for one of the Moyer repair kits.





            In the background, you can see the motor for our dinghy, a 1957 Evinrude Fisherman. My wife loves this motor because it is so easy to start.

            Mike

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            • Marian Claire
              Afourian MVP
              • Aug 2007
              • 1769

              #7
              Nice job. I have a fuel pump I will donate to the cause. It probably needs rebuilding but the housing should be good. Send me a PM if you want it. Your pics are great, even shows the oil change pump like the MC has. Maybe you could post a few here.http://www.moyermarine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4010
              Dan S/V Marian Claire

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              • ILikeRust
                Afourian MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 2212

                #8
                I like the color. That gray makes it really look like a workboat motor. Especially with that big shift lever sticking up. It would look truly choice on a small open launch or skiff.

                I also am using Duplicolor engine paint, in Ford Red. It does seem to cover quite well. We'll see how tough it is in use. It would be better to bake on the paint - I've done that with small items when restoring woodworking machinery - baking even Rustoleum or Krylon makes it much harder. I have a beat up old Black & Decker toaster oven in my shop I use for this purpose.

                Of course, it's a lot harder to bake all these big castings, so I'm hoping the paint will bake itself when I run the engine and get it all heated up.
                - Bill T.
                - Richmond, VA

                Relentless pursuer of lost causes

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                • Administrator
                  MMI Webmaster
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 2195

                  #9
                  Wasn't this the old Massey Ferguson tractor color?

                  Nice memories...

                  Bill

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                  • marthur
                    Afourian MVP
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 844

                    #10
                    Well guys, I finished assembling the motor and fired it up. It ran but needs to be adjusted / tuned. I will not be able to work on it until we get back from our annual sailing trip to the Lake Huron's beautiful North Channel. We will be running the late model motor currently installed in our boat.

                    If any of you see the June Bug (1977 Catalina 27) in Lake Huron hail us!

                    Mike
                    Mike

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                    • sastanley
                      Afourian MVP
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 7030

                      #11
                      thanks for the update...have a good trip. When I fired mine up recently from a long sleep, the timing was way off (the distributor had been removed)...a little spin on the dizzy fixed her right up!
                      -Shawn
                      "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                      "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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                      • anglosax
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 78

                        #12
                        Grey ???

                        Nice restore job - but I cant handle that color !!! A4s are characterful beasties - they need bright colors to perform their best - I have a 65 engine just like yours in a 65 islander and since painting it fire engine red it has 10 more HP !!!! [ or maybe not ]
                        Incidentally I always use rustoleum hammmer paint and then over coat with hi heat auto paint - Ita tough as nails and wont burn off - unless you really try !!
                        Its a boat... what can possibly go wrong.....?

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                        • marthur
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 844

                          #13
                          Here is a short video of our results. It lives!

                          Mike

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                          • domenic
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 469

                            #14
                            That is how my A4 sounds...Is that the normal sound of a Good A4?

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                            • ILikeRust
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 2212

                              #15
                              Sounds pretty much right to me. Of course, I've never heard one with nothing on the manifold, but it's similar to how mine sounded with just a couple feet of pipe on it.
                              - Bill T.
                              - Richmond, VA

                              Relentless pursuer of lost causes

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