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Old 11-23-2010, 09:56 PM
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Jay and Ebben - The tools you need from Goodson are, driver #GP-431 and reamer .314. Regards, Hanley
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Pictures!

We made a movie of all the pictures we have taken so far... Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvJCdiUu_cw


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Valve Stem Tolerances...

Can anyone direct us to a place where we can find tolerances for the valves and cylinders?

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Jay and Ebben - Look in your Moyer Marine Manual pages 1-7 and 1-8. Also read the discussion on P4-1 thru P4-5. Regards, Hanley
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We should of known that... Sorry to bother you!

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We're back!!! We found out the Moyer doesn't do machine work anymore. We have an old friend who is going to come over and measure the block and has an incredible machine shop. He is very skilled. Can anybody tell me, ahead of his arrival, how a block is machined? What do we need to ask from him? Is this something that he should be able to do with me? Or are we crazy of thinking of asking him to do this...? We are convinced it will need to be bored because we can see the wear inside the cylinders before we have even measured it. And does anyone know where you can buy the sleeves?

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Ebben and Jay - Glad to see you back! Just a reminder, that engine was running fine when taken out of the boat. The only problem was that it burned a little oil. Of course you should have your friend examine it but I would not assume that you need either pistons or boring. I do think that you should plan on a new set of rings and a valve job including new guides. You may find the bearings are still within specs but you will probably replace them anyway. Welcome back. Regards, Hanley
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Whew! that's a big question for one post.

Your friend will be the one to answer many of these questions. It seems he has taken an interest already. You're lucky.

Many different types of machining operations are used to recondition an engine. You may not need all of them. A machinist is the one to make that judgement. Many times an engine cylinder bore will look worn but still be in serviceable spec. The top of the bore, where the piston rings stop on their stroke travel, is where you will see the most wear. You can feel this spot with your fingertips. Again this may not be worn out. My own block was worn a bit here and I honed the cylinder walls with a fine grade hone and just put in new rings.

Sleeves are for when the cylinder has so much damage that it can't be bored to fit oversized pistons. This is way to save rare or valuable engine blocks.

I just saw Hanley posted before I could finish
What he said.

Anyway, ask lots of questions to your friend and offer to help him too, even if it's just mowing his lawn. There are no wrong questions here, I bet he would like your curiosity. I hope you can watch any operation he might do for you. You'll like the machine shop, ask for a tour.

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New Boat/Motor

I figured I'd share this with you... even though it isn't an A4! It's our new boat, Maverick. She is a 42' steel ketch built by Kompier in Holland.

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Well, I guess you're not bottom feeding for sure.
That's a very fair hull. Exceptionally so, when you think that it's a steel boat.

Nice find,
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Nice!
VT mud, indeed.
No credit for the nice fiddle music?

Once ready do you plan on launching in Lake Champlain?
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WOW , I am impressed. What a vessel. What a huge propeller. Nice cutaway forefoot on the keel. You now have a small ship. A bit of info on design and age would be nice. And the rig ?

Very enjoyable , thank you. CK
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I think It's too big for Champlain... that'll be the Ericson!

I heard that Kompier was a top-of-the-line shipyard in Holland.

Music is New Country by Sam Bush... we sam him in a concert a while ago and he was great!

Maverick is a ketch, so two masts, and is from 1981. She was designed by a man named Herman Tingen...

that's just about all I know without digging way into the paperwork!

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[YOUTUBE]TvJCdiUu_cw[/YOUTUBE]
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Ebben and Jay,

Well, isn't that something. Your guys will remember this forever. In time, both of you will be telling your grand kids about Windsong ... and her story. You might even still have her! So cool that Hanley had a block. Outstandling....this is what it is all about. I'm so impressed.
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I may have missed a few episodes.
What is the current state of the Ericson Repowering and restoration.

Has that project completed or abandoned for now?

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thanks for the update Ebben
Best wishes with both vessels

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We're back again!

Now for the A4...

We finally got the block back, and parts came, and we put the crankshaft, oil pump, rings, and pistons in today!

Here are some pictures..

Stay tuned! there's more to come...
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Sweet..thanks for the update. Ebben, you must be 13 by now!
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:)

It runs! After months of putting it back together (on and off) it is finally running.. not well... but it still runs!

I took a movie and I am putting it together now.

Thanks for all the help, everyone!
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