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View Poll Results: Is your bilge wet or dry? | |||
Bone dry | 11 | 10.58% | |
Wet but I wish it weren't | 49 | 47.12% | |
Wet as I would expect | 44 | 42.31% | |
Voters: 104. You may not vote on this poll |
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#76
IP: 24.224.206.117
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oh!
So I guess I missed the point on that one Neil. LOL. For the boats that require a drain I think you are on to something.
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Mo "Odyssey" 1976 C&C 30 MKI The pessimist complains about the wind. The optimist expects it to change. The realist adjusts the sails. ...Sir William Arthur Ward. |
#77
IP: 24.152.131.155
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Not your fault Mo. I was playing it close to the vest but not any more. I'm on the fence with this one, that's why I'm inviting opinions. I'm not sure the benefit factor is there. Of course if it prevents even a single flood I suppose it is.
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Neil 1977 Catalina 30 San Pedro, California prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22 Had my hands in a few others |
#78
IP: 24.224.206.117
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You are onto something.
I sure it would prevent engine trouble Neil...couldn't help but do it. Depending on the layout of specific boat you perhaps could "T" into a Lazarette or sink drain.
You know, the Calalina 30 has that problem regardless of gas or diesel engine. My friend had to replace valves on a Yanmar for that exact reason...water came back into the engine while sailing and when he tried starting it ... boom, it has to come apart to be repaired. He was down almost a month just waiting for parts for the thing.
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Mo "Odyssey" 1976 C&C 30 MKI The pessimist complains about the wind. The optimist expects it to change. The realist adjusts the sails. ...Sir William Arthur Ward. |
#79
IP: 206.125.176.5
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Neil & I have talked about this a little bit. I try really hard to keep my bilge dry..if I can do so, a sudden wet bilge more readily indicates some problem. A boat with 2 or 3 (or more) inches of water in it all the time may take the B.O. a little longer to recognize any issue.
That being said, I am constantly sponging the ice melt out when my lovely insists on burning ice up in the ice box, instead of using it for dry storage.
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-Shawn "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109 "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!) |
#80
IP: 184.144.8.10
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My coolers also drained into the bilge and I replumbed all to hand pump at galley sink and drain coolers when required directly to sink drain.
Works well and no unpleasant odors in bilge now. |
#81
IP: 151.200.28.127
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Bingy...I have a small jabsco pump that I purchased, and I just need to figure out how to plumb and install into the icebox drain to send it to a sink drain/thruhull.
For me, it has always been "what is the higher priority job this weekend?", so it hasn't gotten done yet.
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-Shawn "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109 "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!) |
#82
IP: 107.0.6.242
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When I first bought Destiny she had an ice box with a dedicated thru hull for drainage. This only works of course if the bottom of the box is above the water line. It also represented another hole in the boat.
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#83
IP: 128.183.140.38
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On Dolce Vita, the icebox drains into a small sump tank in the bilge that is shared with the shower. A small pump is used to pump it out through an above-the-waterline through-hull.
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@(^.^)@ Ed 1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita" with rebuilt Atomic-4 |
#84
IP: 8.19.13.19
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TRUE GRIT |
#85
IP: 108.90.160.12
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I love the floor idea for the C30. Very interesting. Also, as for the C30 waterlift issue. With FWC would it just be a better solution to turn off the raw water intake 30 seconds before shutting down the motor and allow some of the excess water to be pushed out?
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Gary 78' Catalina 30 #1179 www.svknotaclew.wordpress.com |
#86
IP: 107.0.6.150
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As A Matter of Protocol
I always shut off the raw water intake before shutting down, but 30 seconds is a bit much. 10 - 15 seconds does most of the available good, and I also have a valve for draining the raw water side of the exchangers into the bilge from where I pump the water overboard.
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#87
IP: 24.152.132.65
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My preference was for an automatic, hands-free drainage system that required no user input but abandoned the idea after considering the possible effect of acid flushing.
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Neil 1977 Catalina 30 San Pedro, California prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22 Had my hands in a few others |
#88
IP: 66.102.6.179
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I can't readily find a link, but I recall a device that was plumbed into the discharge of the pump of a marine AC system, downstream of the AC unit itself, which would suck up the condensation from the tray under the unit (or a sump, I guess) and expel it from the boat along with the raw water.
No moving parts. Venturi effect. Surprisingly expensive for something so simple, as memory serves me. Bill |
#89
IP: 73.173.165.224
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Me too! I hate this bar. I wish mine was screwed right into the keel but if it were, I'd never be able to service it. Must be a Bristol thing (B30 here)
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#90
IP: 32.211.28.40
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Maybe it is a 'Bristol' thing. I used to own a 38' Bristol trawler (twin Perkins 6-354s) that also had the deep bilge with the pump on the end of a stick. Thought it was a nice design and saw no reason to change it although I did modify it a bit.
Biggest bilge pump flaw with that boat is that there were 3 pumps, all off the same breaker. They were nicely staged for different depth in the bilge. Final pump was the size of a gallon paint can. Total current draw for all three pumps exceeded the breaker capacity! No idea if that was factory or PO. |
#91
IP: 68.50.15.208
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I'd like to say mine is only wet from the stuffing box, but I am working on multiple cabin top leaks and the ridiculous amount of open space between the sliding hatch cover and the boards that lets quite a bit of water in whenever we get a downpour out of the West (which is like every downpour, basically).
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#92
IP: 24.15.213.188
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I have a 1966 Morgan 34 with 3/4 keel/centerboard. This produces a deep "v" shaped bilge aft engine. There is always a couple of inches of water in the bilge from heavy rains overpowering the cockpit lazzerette drains, air scoops, keel step mast, drips from stuffing box and cutlass bearing. There are two direct to batteries auto bilge pumps in the bilge [one on top of the other one] to insure water does not ever excessively accumulate. Any slight "odor" is handled by emptying a bottle of cheap $1 dish soap in the bilge, foaming in it up with water from a hose - letting it settle and pumping it out. I do this in the spring, once mid season and winter haul out. No real issues for 40 + years. FYI
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