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  • prstack7
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 71

    Milky Oil

    I have been reading and troubleshooting. Here is what I have done so far:
    1. Changed the oil 5x. It now looks clear.
    2. Pressure tested the manifold. It passed.
    3. Pressure tested the block. It passed.
    4. Removed the manifold and valve cover. Everything looks good. The valve cover gasket came apart on removal, so it's possible that was a source of infiltration.
    5. Examined externally the water pump. I don't see any evidence of leaking seals.

    Upon reflection, I wonder if an episode this summer where I sprayed water around the engine compartment (it was not intentional, but I don't want to talk about it ) caused this problem. I had milky oil 2 years ago, but that cleared up after changing the oil 3x. Any ideas?

    Side note: should I use gasket sealant when putting the new gasket on the valve cover?
  • Dave Neptune
    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
    • Jan 2007
    • 5046

    #2
    Yes use a good Permatex Aviation Grade or Number 2 grade.

    The water pump can leak into the oil via the rear seal. If the water getting in has been consistent it's a likely suspect. Intermittent could be from the hush hush spraying.

    Dave Neptune

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    • Easy Rider
      Afourian MVP
      • Feb 2007
      • 140

      #3
      Are you raw water cooled?
      Chuck

      71 Ranger 29

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      • prstack7
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 71

        #4
        Originally posted by Easy Rider View Post
        Are you raw water cooled?
        Yes, I am.

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        • zellerj
          Afourian MVP
          • May 2005
          • 304

          #5
          Water in the oil does not have to be from an engine issue. The only time I had water in the oil was a result of large wakes hitting my stern when I was stuck on a sandbar. If you do not have a plate over your exhaust through hull, then a wave or wake could have pushed water up through the exhaust and into your engine. Also extended cranking with the cooling water through hull open can fill your water lift muffler (if you have one) and also push water into the crankcase through an open valve.
          Jim Zeller
          1982 Catalina 30
          Kelleys Island, Ohio

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          • Easy Rider
            Afourian MVP
            • Feb 2007
            • 140

            #6
            Lots of info regarding this topic on the forum. I'm sure others will chime in and help figure out what's causing it. What about the possibility of over cranking with the sea cock open? Any restrictions in the exhaust?
            Chuck

            71 Ranger 29

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            • prstack7
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 71

              #7
              I have been reading the various threads on this issue. I'm hoping that this was the result of an event, such as the water spray in the engine compartment or infiltration through the exhaust (no plate over my tail pipe). I was able to rule out cracks in the manifold or the block, plus engine compression test shows great on all 4 cylinders, so that's good. The boat's on the hard now, so it will have to wait until next year to know for sure. It was definitely not extended cranking. The one bummer is that, while putting the valve cover plate back on, I broke a bolt by overtightening. Now I have another problem to solve.

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              • ArtJ
                • Sep 2009
                • 2175

                #8
                Have you checked the head?

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                • sastanley
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 6986

                  #9
                  Originally posted by prstack7 View Post
                  I have been reading the various threads on this issue. I'm hoping that this was the result of an event, such as the water spray in the engine compartment or infiltration through the exhaust (no plate over my tail pipe). I was able to rule out cracks in the manifold or the block, plus engine compression test shows great on all 4 cylinders, so that's good. The boat's on the hard now, so it will have to wait until next year to know for sure. It was definitely not extended cranking. The one bummer is that, while putting the valve cover plate back on, I broke a bolt by overtightening. Now I have another problem to solve.
                  Once you get the broken bolt extracted, this is a great time to convert to studs!
                  -Shawn
                  "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                  "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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                  • prstack7
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 71

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ArtJ View Post
                    Have you checked the head?
                    Yes, I did a compression test and all 4 cylinders were around 115.

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                    • prstack7
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2011
                      • 71

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sastanley View Post
                      Once you get the broken bolt extracted, this is a great time to convert to studs!
                      That's a good point. I hadn't thought of that.

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                      • prstack7
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 71

                        #12
                        Back to work

                        Boat launched, and still have milky oil issue after changing oil again. My understanding is I should next go with the water pump seals. BTW, thanks for the convert to studs idea. It was definitely the way to go.

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                        • Surcouf
                          Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                          • May 2018
                          • 361

                          #13
                          Originally posted by prstack7 View Post
                          Boat launched, and still have milky oil issue after changing oil again. My understanding is I should next go with the water pump seals. BTW, thanks for the convert to studs idea. It was definitely the way to go.
                          First: make sure the water seals "wheep hole" is not blocked. This hole can be seen at 0:37 of the video

                          It is located after the seals, at the bottom side of the pump casing. Its duty is to let drain any water that would go past the seals (seals located around the shaft). If seal leak become simportant, it will potentially overflow that hole an go into the oil. But if you have 0 water draining out AND this hole is clear, I would scratch my head a little more around potential other culprits...
                          Surcouf
                          A nostalgic PO - Previously "Almost There" - Catalina 27 (1979)

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                          • capnward
                            Afourian MVP
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 335

                            #14
                            +1 on it being the seals in the pump. This happened to me. Once water got past the first seal into the bearing, the shaft wore in the seized bearing and created a wobble in the shaft that destroyed the next seal, which sent water shooting right past the open 'weep' hole into the crankcase. The weep hole was definitely weeping, more like pouring, and cooling water was diverted from engine cooling to the bilge and the crankcase. The engine overheating was what clued me into the problem. The pump was completely failed, but the impeller was fine.
                            So, you may need a new shaft in addition to new seals. Having a working pump as a backup is a good idea.

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                            • prstack7
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 71

                              #15
                              Weep hole

                              How can I tell that the weep hole is clear?

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