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  • cvile1617
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 22

    Getting current from coil output but not from distributor wires to plugs

    Engine always runs without fault. Ran for 3 minutes and shut down. Not fuel issue. NO SPARK. Replaced EI module, new Moyer Coil, new distributor cap, new rotor button. EI has proper gap, test light across coil +/- light turns on and off. Connect spark plug to coil wire and spark at plug. Connect coil to distributor and check spark at plug - NO SPARK. I have jumped coil from battery and I am jumping starter to control at engine. New Coil wire but no impact.

    So what am i missing???? Why coil output but nothing from the distributor output to any of the plugs

    Checked advance weights and they are very clean, springs seem effective when I take a screw driver and spread the weights they pop right back. No gunk, rust or stuff around the weights. Nothing binding them.

    I am at a total loss on what the next step is.
    Philip Crocker
    1964 Columbia 40 #4
    Darlington, MD
  • ndutton
    Afourian MVP
    • May 2009
    • 9601

    #2
    Good research so far and good reporting.

    Did you put the rotor back on after installing the EI?? Sorry, it's a question that has to be asked.

    Did you check for spark with all plug wires? I'd like to be sure it's not a single bad wire too.

    The next thing I would do is replace the distributor cap and rotor. Bend the little floating tab on the top of the rotor slightly up to insure a good contact with the center post on the underside of the distributor cap and be sure the cap is properly seated on the distributor body.

    The distributor is nothing more than a rotating 4 position switch completing the circuit between the center post and each of the plug wire posts in succession.
    Last edited by ndutton; 08-29-2015, 03:39 PM.
    Neil
    1977 Catalina 30
    San Pedro, California
    prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
    Had my hands in a few others

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    • Marian Claire
      Afourian MVP
      • Aug 2007
      • 1768

      #3
      Did you replace the magnetic ring along with the EI module? If so is it installed properly? Have been reports of the ring being hard to press into place.
      ??" EI has proper gap"?? What gap?

      Dan S/V Marian Claire

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      • cvile1617
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 22

        #4
        Thanks for the quick replies

        Gap is correct at 30 1000"s Ring is properly seated, no spark on any plug. distributor seated nicely, rotor button pushed up
        Philip Crocker
        1964 Columbia 40 #4
        Darlington, MD

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        • ndutton
          Afourian MVP
          • May 2009
          • 9601

          #5
          OK, you either have failure of four plug wires simultaneously (not likely) or the interface between the distributor cap and rotor is lost.

          You report EI is functioning, coil is producing spark, coil wire is delivering spark to the center cap post, spark interrupted somewhere between the center cap post and all 4 plug wires at their extreme end.

          Let's go find where.

          Can you fashion a spark plug inverted into the dist cap plug wire post and ground the plug body (eliminates the plug wire for the test)? Give a test and look for spark. Yes=plug wire problem, no= cap/rotor problem.
          Neil
          1977 Catalina 30
          San Pedro, California
          prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
          Had my hands in a few others

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          • cvile1617
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2013
            • 22

            #6
            great thoughts on isolating further. So I too a spark plug and attached a wire between threads and block. Connected to coil wire and got a spark - confirm that my ground was good. Next inverted plug and dropped in distributor wire port after extending the plug tip nut so as deep in the hole as far as possible- NO SPARK

            Thoughts on the next step with rotor and distributor?
            Philip Crocker
            1964 Columbia 40 #4
            Darlington, MD

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            • cvile1617
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 22

              #7
              more information. I originally used one of the spark plug wires to connect the spark plug to the coil high output and got a spark. So secondary proof that plug wire is good
              Philip Crocker
              1964 Columbia 40 #4
              Darlington, MD

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              • ndutton
                Afourian MVP
                • May 2009
                • 9601

                #8
                Continuity test please between the rotor center tab and the rotor perimeter shoe.
                Neil
                1977 Catalina 30
                San Pedro, California
                prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                Had my hands in a few others

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                • Marian Claire
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1768

                  #9
                  And maybe all 5 of the posts on the distributor.
                  Dan S/V Marian Claire

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                  • cvile1617
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2013
                    • 22

                    #10
                    I used a test light. Power to shoe with light from tab to ground and light turned on so - good connection.

                    Also did the same for one plug port and the coil input on the distributor. Weak light but it did illumninate
                    Philip Crocker
                    1964 Columbia 40 #4
                    Darlington, MD

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                    • cvile1617
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2013
                      • 22

                      #11
                      more background. I have also used the old distributor and rotor as well as the new rotor and distributor all with same outcome - no spark
                      Philip Crocker
                      1964 Columbia 40 #4
                      Darlington, MD

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                      • ndutton
                        Afourian MVP
                        • May 2009
                        • 9601

                        #12
                        Before anything else I'd replace the distributor cap and rotor. They are consumables so it's probably time anyway.

                        I'd treat her to new plug wires too. Everything else will be new so why not?

                        edit: old and new distributor, old and new rotor? Do you mean distributor cap? This is new information, something I missed previously? Can you describe the spark when you see it? Hot, fat and bluish or wimpy and yellowish?
                        Last edited by ndutton; 08-29-2015, 04:57 PM.
                        Neil
                        1977 Catalina 30
                        San Pedro, California
                        prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                        Had my hands in a few others

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                        • cvile1617
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2013
                          • 22

                          #13
                          she has a new set of clothes. New rotor, new cap, new coil wire, new coil, new EI module, existing magnetic ring. I tested the coil with light. I bumped the starter to a position between plugs and light on tester went out, bumped again to light comes on.

                          Where could a ground drain the distributor?????
                          Philip Crocker
                          1964 Columbia 40 #4
                          Darlington, MD

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                          • cvile1617
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2013
                            • 22

                            #14
                            new cap, new rotor. Not fat and blue when coming from the coil. I would say strong and yellow

                            edit: I am seeing the spark via the plug not by grounding the coil plug.
                            Last edited by cvile1617; 08-29-2015, 05:01 PM.
                            Philip Crocker
                            1964 Columbia 40 #4
                            Darlington, MD

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                            • Marian Claire
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1768

                              #15
                              So the magnetic ring that you are using now is the same one that was in the distributor when it first stopped running. Correct?
                              Dan S/V Marian Claire

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