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Old 04-05-2011, 05:55 PM
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lets chat Cal owners

Hey Cal owners what say you

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Old 04-05-2011, 08:17 PM
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Cals Rule

I have had several Cal 25's since 1970. I bought Jack Jensen's Cal Crusing 46 from his estate in 1982 and still have it behind my house on Bayou Chico
N 30 24.329 by W 087 15.767. We lived aboard 18 years, cruised 9 years.

A4ourian Content: I have repaired several A4's that were in Cal boats.

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Old 04-05-2011, 09:55 PM
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I had a Cal 25, A Cal 27 pop top and I now have a fine 74 Cal 3-30. I've alway liked them. Good strong boats and good sailers.

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I cut my teeth on a Cal 20. It's been 30 years , and I still miss that great little boat.
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1967 Cal 30

love her! learning how to maintain the 43 yr old A4 but so far so good

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Purchased a '76 Cal 2-27

Just bought her last September in Middle River, MD. Last October I sailed her down the Chesapeake Bay to her present home. I've spent the winter and spring replacing some of the rigging and doing some work on the A4. She now runs and sails great!
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second year owner of a 72 cal 29' love the boat, need some love an maintence, sailed it down from conneticut last summer an this cal is everything every cal owner told me what a boat!
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Old 06-19-2011, 01:06 PM
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Cal 29 is a great boat. Very bulletproof like all cals.
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1973 Cal 29

Owned her for 2 years - Great boat - Thank you, Bill Lapworth and Jack Jensen!
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My Cals

I got a 1969 Cal 25 in 1990 and upgraded to my current Cal 3-30 in 1995. I call her Callinectes - the genus for the blue crab. We race an cruise. I have fixed or replaced lots of stuff on the boat, including the infamous beam that supports the compression post. A new head on the Atomic 4, new valves and tooling the valve seats brought the engine back to life.
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Old 11-27-2011, 05:25 PM
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How have you run your halyards and spinnaker lines back to the cockpit on your 3-30. This is a problem because of the cowlling.
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Engine removal Cal 3-30

Just purchased a Cal 3-30...with a stuck A4 motor...plan on at least pulling the head to try to unstick. Anyone removed one lately on this design? Did you disassemble the fixed companionway ladder or go out through the aft hatch? thanks!
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Question Siezed

pjf, first welcome to the MMI Afourian Forum.

I do not have a Cal, however I did by my boat with a seized A-4 and got it to turn while in the boat. That was in 1984 and the lil beastie is still running like a champ.

Don't know how it is to work in the confines of your Cal but if you can get it to spin while in the boat it would save a lot of work. Might be worth creating an access panel.

I would also take this to a separate thread for "your issue" and the Cal guys will chime in there too.

A few details of how stuck it is might help too. Has any work been done to try and free it up yet?

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Welcome. I also have a Cal 3-30 built in 1974. They are awesome boats and if sailed and set up right can be fairly fast. Listen to dave and the others here before you take the head off. Many an old A-4 was completely stuck or presumably frozen and they are now chugging along fine with minimal effort. You may need to tear into it but please try the easy way first. Also, there are numerous threads throughout this forum dealing with your issue. Your issue has been resolved with as little as taking the spark plugs out and pouring some Marvel Mystery oil down the holes. I'm serious.

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Another reason to try to unstuck the motor without removing it is how the heck are you going to get it out of the boat? The engine was built into it. You would need to disassemble the sink and stairway assembly to get the motor out. Its not coming out of the lazzarette opening, its only 13.5 inches wide. I know this because I had to squeeze a 25 inch wide gas tank out through it.

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I concur. Get some MMO poured into every cylinder and let it set a few days. Then get a breaker bar on the front power take-off and start trying to wiggle it alternately CW and CCW. Repeat this every day or two until you get some movement. If it's just seized up in the cylinders, it WILL come free, it'll just take some time.

You can make a tool to go over the front power take-off by sacrificing a large 1/2" socket and either cutting two notches in it, or welding a short section of pipe onto it with two notches cut into that.

Or just buy the timing crank from MMI

Of course, this all assumes you have enough clearance to get at the flywheel end of the engine.

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Thank you Gentlemen. I bought some Penetrating oil called Engine Release...will pull the plugs and give it a try. If not that then the MMO and try some more. Problem with that engine placement is access to the flywheel cover area. May have to pull the starter and try the flywheel from that end. Was looking if I could use a junk starter and put a 1/2 wrench on that. If still won't move then it is a new post and cabin disassembly time.
DVD. Would be interested in your rig setup once I get the A4 running.
Thanks again!
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When get to that point let me know and I give you what advice I have on the Cal 3-30

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Talking Dogfish~sidebar

Dogfish, the C-46 is my dream cruising boat. I liked them from the first time a sailed one, lots of room and storage for a boat that motors like a trawler and sails like a sailboat as all of Lapworth's boats do. Do you still have the boat on the hard and is it a ketch rig?
I had a friend that was a cabinet/custom furniture maker who bought a "kit boat" from Jensen way back when. He finished the interior and set it up for 4 and you could make up a few extra bunks in the "house" if need be. The best thing he did was instead of the stock Perkins he put in the same engine but with the larger injector and turbo which was available at the time, I think it was a 160 HP. Anyway he could cruise all day on the same fuel numbers as any other C-46 but if he was in a hurry at WOT she'd do 12 knots. I can remember motoring by some Grand Banks and other trawlers checking us out with their jaws dropped.
I also had the chance to meet and spend a couple of days cruising with Bill Lapworth on a Caribean trip. It was a charter deal and the ironic thing was that the all of the boats being chartered were O'days even his and my wife and I got the literally the last Cal in the fleet. In fact ours was the last charter for that boat as it went back to Florida after our trip. We got a Cal 39 and he was in one of the O'day 37 CC models.. We met as our boat needed a bit of repair and I had a hangover extrodinaire so we wound up not leaving with the 7 others boats in our group. I was in the bar with my head on the table and Bill and I began chatting, a really nice fellow. He offered to by me a drink and I said I'll take a coffee. After a bit of conversation we introduced our selves. I did it first and he got a real kick out of my last name and then I was floored when Bill said his name was Bill Lapworth. We sailed out at night a big no no in the area and stayed in the same bays for the first two nights. Had a good deal of fun with him. He sailed on the Antiga and we sailed the BVI.

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