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Old 04-02-2013, 12:30 PM
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It's simple: just remove the engine and pull the coupler!

Didn't Ford build one of the original Mustangs with a large engine where it was impossible to remove one of the spark plugs?
This is a very good point. Good on ya Ed!
You would not even have to undo the gas line or any of the wires. This would work on my boat but maybe the engine mounts would not slide on Bigeye's.

It seems Ed is always the one to step back a bit and look at a new angle.

Neil,
Horray for the Cat 22, My first "big" boat too.

Regarding hard-to-reach spark plugs; Torino, Chevy Astro, Toyota siena, the list is long
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Old 04-02-2013, 12:43 PM
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What a setup!!

Jerry, that is one awesome engine compartment. Plus, I'm envious of your stuffing box- plenty of room to repack or adjust things.

That pic is certainly inspiring!!
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:43 PM
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Jerry...every time I see your engine compartment I look with envy at the cleanliness and neatness. Nice hot exhaust sitting back there as well.

You do run a tight ship, congratulations on keeping her so.
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Jerry, that is one awesome engine compartment. Plus, I'm envious of your stuffing box- plenty of room to repack or adjust things.

That pic is certainly inspiring!!
Mike

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Old 07-02-2013, 09:43 PM
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Stuffing Box Temporary Solution

When we last left our intrepid sailor, he was trying to figure out how to deal with a fast dripping stuffing box in his Sabre 28 with almost no room on the shaft or access to the box. No idea when the PO last changed out the material.

After I hit the box with PB Blaster several times, the yard mechanic managed to get one wrench on the nuts and loosened them a bit. Then he said he tightened down the big nut. He said to watch it when the boat went in the water. No drips with engine off.

A fuel delivery issue kept me on the mooring for a while and I wanted to wait until I had a good long run before I reported that the drip has been slowed greatly to a normal rate!

So, I have a reprieve and must decide whether to pull the engine into the salon to get at everything this off season.

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Old 07-02-2013, 09:59 PM
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Consider that at some point (worn out packing) tightening the stuffing box applies more friction to the shaft resulting in more load on the engine and shaft wear. The engine load can reach a point where it will stall the engine when idling in gear.

If you experience a stall immediately preceded by a squeal, that's it.

Voice of experience here.
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Looking at that picture I would suggest that once the engine is out you should make every effort to develop more space between the nut and the coupling. It looks like you could saw off maybe an inch of the threaded tube and you might also be able to shorten the hose to the minimum.
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Old 07-02-2013, 10:07 PM
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Stuffing Box Temporary Solution

Thanks for the warning. Engine idling well. Shuts down smoothly. In fact everything sounds better than ever and the boat really zips along without even approaching full throttle!

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Old 07-03-2013, 09:24 AM
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Unhappy Mustang

Ed, I had a good friend with a 428 CJ Mustang with the "Shaker Scoop" that was like that. We cut an access panel in the fender well so we could get to it from under the car. A real PIA but a very fast car.

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Bristol 27: No room for stuffing box service

Like your Saber my Bristol 27 has no room to back the packing nut off and has horrible access.

The first time I had to repack I ended up cutting the shaft (bronze) with a hacksaw blade and removing the shaft. I replaced the rubber log and cutless bearing while I was at it.

The more times I repacked the easier it got but, its not fun. Now I have a SS shaft (can't find any bronze anymore) and have to "persuade" the shaft out.

It goes without saying, If you pull the shaft make sure you get the Set Screw(s) installed correctly. Apparently, last year when I pulled the shaft, I screwed up the set screw and the shaft pulled out resulting in grounding and being blown onto a lee shore. Because I was taking on water (and could not steer the due to the shaft wedged being between the hull and rudder) SeaTow claimed salvage at $100/ft.

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It works in my S28

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There is room in this boat to replace the packing. I've done it multiple times. The Shaft coupler job is a job and a half. I used both a dremel with a cut off wheel and an angle grinder to split the coupler and remove the shaft. Other methods of using a stack of dimes or socket do not work in these boats with such limited access.

You get just a strand at a time and do your best. I"ve never fit more than 3 strands.

Best of luck and sorry if this is already answered in previous posts.

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Old 07-03-2013, 07:34 PM
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Coupler cutoff

The angle grinder cutoff the flange, the dremel split the coupler, the cold chisel broke the seal. I did this never-ending work with the leaking steel gas tank out of the boat. It made working in such cramped conditions tolerable.

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I did this never-ending work with the leaking steel gas tank out of the boat. It made working in such cramped conditions tolerable.
On behalf of an industry I loved dearly, I apologize. It seems most boats were designed and built without the slightest consideration of how maintenance would be accomplished.

You can be assured the factory installed the engine, shaft, stuffing box and packing before the deck was mated to the hull.
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Look at the 'old' photo carefully. I never noticed until it was all disassembled but the the shaft log is 1.25 water hose. There's a tight fit and only enough purchase for one hose clamp in my setup. I did all of this work whilst sitting astride the shaft. This is only possible with the tank out.

Otherwise your are upside-down-a$$-first down the sail locker doing all of this with your hands over your head and the tool you need out of reach.

This is one of my favorite pics from the whole nasty job.

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hiker...i have a nice new bulk algonquin stuffing box too. I was amazed in the difference between their hose and the "water hose" I removed.
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Bigeye still on here?

Out of curiosity, Bigeye, are you still around on the forum? I think I own the Sabre 28 previously known as Morningstar, and I suspect that it hasn't had the stuffing box redone in some time....the photos look awfully familiar...
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