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  • Funky cat
    Frequent Contributor
    • Aug 2022
    • 8

    New member

    Hello everyone, my name is Mike owner of a 1975 Catalina 30 aka funky cat.
    I've owned the boat for 3 years and I am. Just now getting used to understanding the boat and its A4 engine. I love the boat a solid well taken care of boat with with lots of custom features. And its A4. I love its simplicity, growing up with working on old cars with points plugs and condensors. Except I've Had to change the oil every summer Now because of milky oil. Obviously water entering. The previous owner told me to make sure cooling water intake thru hull is closed before sailing on a starboard tack because water can siphon back into engine if #4 exhaust valve is open? But after an eight hour motor without wind I've had to change the oil again. Whats up? Also does anyone. Know if the reverseing band can be replaced with the motor in the boat?. Thanks any feedback on these issues would be appreciated
  • Dave Neptune
    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
    • Jan 2007
    • 5046

    #2
    Mike, water can ingress a couple of ways other than the one you mentioned. It can get in if there is a breech in the manifold which is an easy pressure check across the two water fittings. The other is a failed head gasket which can be checked with a compression gage. There are a couple more but rare and a bit more catastrophic.

    The reversing band is a rare piece to replace. A few "newbies" have thought it needs replacing because reverse won't "hold" in gear, reverse on the A-4 direct drives is only engaged by maintaining pressure on the shifter. If you relax the band loosens and reverse will slip. Hopefully this is your issue. Forward only has a detent lock to hold the clutches whereas reverse must be "held" in place to maintain driving force.

    Dave Neptune

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    • ndutton
      Afourian MVP
      • May 2009
      • 9601

      #3
      Where is this boat located? Its location may have a direct impact on water incursion.
      Neil
      1977 Catalina 30
      San Pedro, California
      prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
      Had my hands in a few others

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      • Funky cat
        Frequent Contributor
        • Aug 2022
        • 8

        #4
        Water in oil

        Neil, the boat is in a freshwater lake in Canada, I fail to understand what locations have to do if the system is working properly or not.

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        • ndutton
          Afourian MVP
          • May 2009
          • 9601

          #5
          Originally posted by Funky cat View Post
          Neil, the boat is in a freshwater lake in Canada, I fail to understand what locations have to do if the system is working properly or not.
          If the boat is in the snow belt it brings in the very real possibility of improper winterizing and the resultant freeze damage. Based on your information a cooling system pressure test is indicated, preferably block and manifold separately. I wouldn't spend a second looking elsewhere until the engine passes this test.
          Neil
          1977 Catalina 30
          San Pedro, California
          prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
          Had my hands in a few others

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          • Funky cat
            Frequent Contributor
            • Aug 2022
            • 8

            #6
            Reverse. Gear

            Dave. Thanks for your post. I have a issue with Reverseing gear adjusting. Nut. Mine won't budge, I've wrenched. On heavy equipment for most of my life and I understand the engineering on the reversing gear. I've broken the revering bar trying to adjust the band, mine will not turn in either direction. Mistery to me, short of heat l can't see away to get it to budge. I machined up a new bar but I'm cautious of putting to much pressure on the pin.

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            • Funky cat
              Frequent Contributor
              • Aug 2022
              • 8

              #7
              Water in oil

              Neil, I ran plumbing antifreeze through entire system until it came Out the exhaust. I'm thinking that would be enough to winterize, Also how would I pressure test the two systems ? Thanks

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              • ndutton
                Afourian MVP
                • May 2009
                • 9601

                #8
                There's a description in the Testing Protocols category on the forum home page. It should have detailed instructions. Let's hope it passes the test.
                Neil
                1977 Catalina 30
                San Pedro, California
                prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                Had my hands in a few others

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                • tenders
                  Afourian MVP
                  • May 2007
                  • 1440

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Funky cat View Post
                  Neil, I ran plumbing antifreeze through entire system until it came Out the exhaust. I'm thinking that would be enough to winterize, Also how would I pressure test the two systems ? Thanks
                  Unless the engine was hot and the thermostat was open, that didn’t get antifreeze into the engine.

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                  • Mo
                    Afourian MVP
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 4468

                    #10
                    Another possibility is water getting past the seal on the water pump. I have come across a couple of those over the past 10 years or so. Have you been adding grease to the water pump and giving it a turn once in a while?
                    Mo

                    "Odyssey"
                    1976 C&C 30 MKI

                    The pessimist complains about the wind.
                    The optimist expects it to change.
                    The realist adjusts the sails.
                    ...Sir William Arthur Ward.

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                    • ndutton
                      Afourian MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 9601

                      #11
                      [Off topic]
                      Thanks for posting Mo. I was worried about you and the effects of Hurricane Kay.
                      Neil
                      1977 Catalina 30
                      San Pedro, California
                      prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                      Had my hands in a few others

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                      • Mo
                        Afourian MVP
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 4468

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ndutton View Post
                        [Off topic]
                        Thanks for posting Mo. I was worried about you and the effects of Hurricane Kay.
                        Just over a week ago Fiona wiped up our club. 11 sunk, 3 on beach, about 30 more damaged. Odyssey did fine, bent ladder and small paint chip. We are still cleaning up. Will need new marina for next year.
                        Mo

                        "Odyssey"
                        1976 C&C 30 MKI

                        The pessimist complains about the wind.
                        The optimist expects it to change.
                        The realist adjusts the sails.
                        ...Sir William Arthur Ward.

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