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  • wetbirks
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2021
    • 44

    What kind of electric inline fuel pump do you have?

    I've been having issues with my motor so I had a mechanic look at it this evening. He said the electric inline fuel pump that I have is causing the problem.

    He said the pump that I have is meant for a vehicle. It's delivering a too much fuel to the engine uncontrollably. He suggested I need a low volume fuel pump. The photos I have attached are my silver inline fuel pump.

    What kind of inline fuel pump do you have on your boat? Can you make any recommendations?
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  • ndutton
    Afourian MVP
    • May 2009
    • 9601

    #2
    Recommended by Moyer Marine and offered in their online catalog:
    Neil
    1977 Catalina 30
    San Pedro, California
    prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
    Had my hands in a few others

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    • JOHN COOKSON
      Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
      • Nov 2008
      • 3500

      #3
      Originally posted by wetbirks View Post
      Can you make any recommendations?
      Yes.

      When you upgrade your pump add a fuel pressure gauge and a polishing filter between the fuel pump and carburetor.

      ex TRUE GRIT

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      • wetbirks
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2021
        • 44

        #4
        Originally posted by JOHN COOKSON View Post
        Yes.

        When you upgrade your pump add a fuel pressure gauge and a polishing filter between the fuel pump and carburetor.

        ex TRUE GRIT

        This is helpful, thank you. Would t work with the existing pump that I have to add these items?

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        • joe_db
          Afourian MVP
          • May 2009
          • 4474

          #5
          Without a fuel pressure gauge, you and the mechanic are both guessing.
          I would replace that thing with the correct fuel pump on general principles, but we have no idea if that is providing too much fuel, not enough, or the issue isn't even related.
          The carb is not really sensitive to fuel pressure, I did some experiments with my engine and anything from 1 to 5 PSI worked fine. At some point you can have too much pressure and overpower the needle valve and flood the engine.
          I would say that 3-4 PSI is the ideal zone. My fuel pressure sits on 4 usually
          Joe Della Barba
          Coquina
          C&C 35 MK I
          Maryland USA

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          • JOHN COOKSON
            Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
            • Nov 2008
            • 3500

            #6
            DITCH THE MECHANIC!

            Originally posted by wetbirks View Post
            I've been having issues with my motor so I had a mechanic look at it this evening. He said the electric inline fuel pump that I have is causing the problem.
            He said the pump that I have is meant for a vehicle. It's delivering a too much fuel to the engine uncontrollably. He suggested I need a low volume fuel pump. The photos I have attached are my silver inline fuel pump.
            What kind of inline fuel pump do you have on your boat? Can you make any recommendations?
            Perhaps the "mechanic" was thinking of a fuel injected engine?
            The fuel pump delivers fuel to the carburetor which then mixes fuel and air and delivers that mixture to the engine. See post #5 for more details.

            ex TRUE GRIT

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            • wetbirks
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2021
              • 44

              #7
              Originally posted by JOHN COOKSON View Post
              Perhaps the "mechanic" was thinking of a fuel injected engine?
              The fuel pump delivers fuel to the carburetor which then mixes fuel and air and delivers that mixture to the engine. See post #5 for more details.

              ex TRUE GRIT

              Interesting. So this could indicate more of a carburettor issue than a fuel pump issue?

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              • joe_db
                Afourian MVP
                • May 2009
                • 4474

                #8
                It could be a lot of things - exactly what is the problem?
                Did the engine EVER work with this fuel pump?
                Also if you are paying a mechanic, a fuel pressure gauge will cost less than paying him for 1 hour to make random guesses
                Joe Della Barba
                Coquina
                C&C 35 MK I
                Maryland USA

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                • roadnsky
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 3101

                  #9
                  Originally posted by joe_db View Post
                  It could be a lot of things - exactly what is the problem?
                  Did the engine EVER work with this fuel pump?
                  Sooooo, this is directly related to WETBIRKS original thread but I don't think it was truly resolved.
                  In that thread a number of us suggested the proper fuel pump (Facet), pressure gauge, OPSS, etc earlier.

                  As Joe and John said, you're throwing money at a Mechanic that could be used to get the right gear.
                  -Jerry

                  'Lone Ranger'
                  sigpic
                  1978 RANGER 30

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                  • wetbirks
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2021
                    • 44

                    #10
                    I just finished installing the fuel pressure gauge and a polish filter. Now I have fuel leaking out of the seam between the flame arrestor and the carburetor. Any idea what I will find what I open that up? Is there a seal in that location?
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                    • Surcouf
                      Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                      • May 2018
                      • 361

                      #11
                      this is the intake of the carburetor, there is no seal, as there should be no fuel.
                      Are you 100% sure fuel is coming from the intake and not leaking from the carburetor casing split gasket?

                      First question:
                      - is that leaking when the engine runs? or when it is stopped? if it is while stopped, it means your SSV valve is not stopping fuel, you are pushing fuel to the carb that is not perfctly sealing, and your carb tank float is getting overflowned, filling your entire carburetor with gas. NOT GOOD
                      - if it is while running, and if it gas is really coming out from the intake of the manifold, that would mean there is a large excess of fuel getting in the body of the carburetor. can't be good.

                      I let the more experienced jive in here
                      Last edited by Surcouf; 07-26-2021, 01:37 PM.
                      Surcouf
                      A nostalgic PO - Previously "Almost There" - Catalina 27 (1979)

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                      • JOHN COOKSON
                        Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 3500

                        #12
                        Originally posted by wetbirks View Post
                        He said the pump that I have is meant for a vehicle. It's delivering a too much fuel to the engine uncontrollably. He suggested I need a low volume fuel pump. The photos I have attached are my silver inline fuel pump.
                        Do you still have the old in line fuel pump connected?

                        ex TRUE GRIT

                        Edit: What is the fuel pressure?
                        Last edited by JOHN COOKSON; 07-26-2021, 01:48 PM.

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                        • wetbirks
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2021
                          • 44

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Surcouf View Post
                          this is the intake of the carburetor, there is no seal, as there should be no fuel.
                          Are you 100% sure fuel is coming from the intake and not leaking from the carburetor casing split gasket?

                          First question:
                          - is that leaking when the engine runs? or when it is stopped? if it is while stopped, it means your SSV valve is not stopping fuel, you are pushing fuel to the carb that is not perfctly sealing, and your carb tank float is getting overflowned, filling your entire carburetor with gas. NOT GOOD
                          - if it is while running, and if it gas is really coming out from the intake of the manifold, that would mean there is a large excess of fuel getting in the body of the carburetor. can't be good.

                          I let the more experienced jive in here
                          This is happening when the engine is not running. I just turn the key to try to build pressure after I installed a fuel pressure gauge and polish filter.

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                          • wetbirks
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2021
                            • 44

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JOHN COOKSON View Post
                            Do you still have the old in line fuel pump connected?

                            ex TRUE GRIT

                            Edit: What is the fuel pressure?
                            Yes, I still have the old filter installed. I was hoping to get a pressure reading from the old filter before installing a new one.

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                            • wetbirks
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2021
                              • 44

                              #15
                              I took off the flame arrestor and the carburetor to take a look inside. I thought maybe there would be some gunk build up but it actually looks pretty clean.
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