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Old 02-11-2010, 10:12 AM
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Cool Atomic 4-powered Snow Blower

Don, I think it would be a big seller here in No. Virginia.
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:28 PM
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From what I hear, Bob, anything that moves snow would be welcome in northern Virginia right about now.

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Hmmm, how about something like the equivalent of a REALLY BIG Dremel tool, powered by an A4, with a variety of heads for whatever needs to be done? A snow blower head, a lawn mower (all right, a brush hog) head, a log splitter head, a hull polishing head, a slip dredging head, for those of you with a lot more friends than I have, a drink mixer head....

What else???

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Bill,

You power a blender with an A4 and you'll surely have more friends, guaranteed!

I'm a proponent of multiple functions for the same equipment. How 'bout a power take-off from our auxiliary for the blender? The Catalina 30 has the engine under the galley so the location seems promising.
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Neil,

Do you really want to run your A4 in neutral that much?

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No way!

It's about a 4 hour sail from San Pedro to Isthmus Cove, Catalina Island and probably 1/2 hour under power in the lee of the island to the mooring. As long as the engine's running - and in gear - the mate may as well put that time to good use before the mooring exercise, at least that's what I think.

A 4 hour sail to a Catalina mooring, steaks on the BBQ, sun setting behind the hills and fresh blended margaritas (it's a West Coast preference). What else can I say?
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What is your solution for getting power from our auxiliary? Do you mean the pulley that runs the alternator?

I am all ears!! As you well know, we don't have the option to run it off the front of the flywheel, which is what I thought you originally meant.

I just shoveled 20" of snow off the boat on Tuesday...the cockpit scupper exits were almost under water!
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OK, OK, first things first . . .

Rigs - well said, don't ever lose your gift of language. Maybe Bill should hold a succinct or brevity contest. Winner would get 1 spark plug.

Shawn,
My comment was just me being a wise guy - again - but actually Bill has an interesting thought. Although on a much smaller scale than he mentioned, a flexible shaft drive is readily available from the tool industry (pic of a cheap-O attached) which would encompass all the available attachments. So, how to drive it off the A4?

If we had a mechanical tach drive we'd be home free. Since we don't, it seems we have two choices: the front of the engine or the aux. drive. Power take-offs have already been done in the FWC systems (Moyer or Indigo). Adapting a flex shaft using either of these concepts shouldn't be too challenging. The ability to disengage the shaft drive would be desirable, maybe with a simple electric clutch like automotive air conditioners.

Believe me, I'm not advocating such a system. My preference is to keep my A4 simple.

As far as a blender goes, if the engine's running anyway why not use 12V power supplied/replenished by the alternator? You know me, Mr. Mondo alternator. Well, that applies to my blender too, it's a 64 oz. Margarator, AC/DC. Rock on, Angus.
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How about some really essential - like a Atomic 4 powered nail filer and toothbrush combined?
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Boy, every time I think that I have it all, someone comes up with a new idea....
The thing I really need is the mate to run all this neat stuff while I do the sailing.....preferably one that doesn't get seasick.....now if we can just get the A4 to overcome seasickness......
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What about a back-pack weed wacker? maybe could even power a ultra (lite?)
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Question

Can someone think of a method to use the engine to help raise an anchor?

How about providing a deck washdown capability?

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Regarding windlass operation, I'm thinking the complexities of routing mechanical energy to the bow make this approach a chore. Electrics with a sufficient alternator (here I go again) would be my preference.

A washdown is intriguing though. As stated earlier, the power take-off systems already exist and some way to disengage would be cool. As an additional benefit, the intake could be fitted with a Y valve with the extra pickup in the bilge. We could do that now with our raw water pump, hmmmm.

It seems we're exploring systems that would require additional run time in neutral, exactly what we're trying to avoid.
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Neil,
you are right, however, the engine is likely already running when hauling the anchor...then after it is hauled and you are quietly putzing away from your anchorage, you'd have plenty of leftover power to run a saltwater pump!

You mentioned the mech tach option...isn't there a plug in the auxiliary drive that you can insert a gear for a tach or whatever else you wanted to drive off the aux drive?

I probably shouldn't engage you in the blender discussion..if my wife sees it she'll want me to get one for our boat!
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some way to disengage would be cool
Is there such a thing as a simple/affordable electric clutch?

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What are some of the ACTUAL real life alternative uses of the atomic 4 engine?

Seriously, for example, in one posting someone put one in a Hinckley runabout. Perhaps they have been used on land to power a vehicle,
tractor, winch? etc?
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hydraulics

A good way to tap energy is hydraulics.
But that is money.

I once worked on a fishing boat in Bristol Bay, We had a deck hose running all the time. It was the best thing for keeping the fish slime and scales of the deck. It was tapped off the heat exchanger and averaged tepid to hot. It was great to get a shower after two weeks of work. I just realized one day that I could strip nekid, stand out on deck, and use lemon-fresh Joy to soap up with; then hose down with hot water while enjoying the view of sea birds and ocean.
The rest of the crew were too prudish to enjoy a shower in their "glory", so they just stunk.
The bits of jelly fish that came through the pump kind of stung for a bit.

My boat is fresh-water-cooled and I think the sea water never gets very warm, but I wish I had a warm deck hose to wash down the frost and ice when I work on the boat in the winter.

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I think that we could easily make full use of the A4 by simply running a countershaft down the length of the boat. Then we could power anything such as a 30 hp blender right at the counter, run a ceiling fan during the hot summer eves. The possibilities are endless.


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Don 't forget to add the industrial revolution style leather belts pto's to the shaft , maybe pick someup cheap from an old textile mill in Lowell mass?
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As I think of ideas for the anchor windlass I have an image of the A-4 ripping the anchor from the sea floor and pulling it up so fast that slings right over the bow. Maybe there is something to the hydraulic take off
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What are some of the ACTUAL real life alternative uses of the atomic 4 engine?

Seriously, for example, in one posting someone put one in a Hinckley runabout. Perhaps they have been used on land to power a vehicle,
tractor, winch? etc?
Reviewing this thread reminded me that way back in the 70's our maintenance mechanic at Islander Yachts repowered a forklift with an A4.
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Is there such a thing as a simple/affordable electric clutch?

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How 'bout this?

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reviewing this thread has reminded me it is still winter everywhere but here and this is what happens when you cant sail
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