replacing small section of hot exaust with 1" pipe instead of 1&1/4th" pipe

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  • LemonShark2
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 59

    replacing small section of hot exaust with 1" pipe instead of 1&1/4th" pipe

    Hi A's.

    I had a rusted pipe break, and am trying to replace the end section of piping, past the elbow section. My problem was the Home Depot and Lowes only had enough black iron piping to replace with 1" sections, they didn't have 1.25".

    I found an 1.25" to 1" converter, and bought the supplies to replace the end of the system with 1" piping.

    Before I do this, I am hoping you could advise if this will have negative effects?
    Too much pressure in the exhaust system due to smaller fittings?

    Piping in red is the area I'm replacing, at a total length of about 12 inches

    Thanks!
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  • Peter
    Afourian MVP
    • Jul 2016
    • 296

    #2
    Lemon,

    excessive back pressure is not good - I recall the manual suggesting that they suspect most A4's run with too much bp - MMI even sells a bp measuring kit to diagnose this issue.

    Go to a plumbing supply store - probably cheaper than Lowes/Home Depot and they will have the sizes you need.

    Peter

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    • LemonShark2
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 59

      #3
      I had a feeling that might be the case, but was hoping otherwise. Whats up with the big stores never having quite what you need??? sigh

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      • toddster
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 490

        #4
        My irrigation supply house has all the black iron stuff I need. Barring that, there's always Grainger or McMaster-Carr.

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        • JOHN COOKSON
          Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
          • Nov 2008
          • 3500

          #5
          IMO is is rather useless to replace the iron plumbing "due to a rusted pipe breaking" because what you don't replace now will fail sooner rather than later.
          How do you plan on loosing the threads to remove the section that failed? Bet you can't do it.

          TRUE GRIT

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          • LemonShark2
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 59

            #6
            I think I got a bit lucky. It broke half way through the threading on a connection of two pipes, and the left over 1/2 inch of threading looks to be salvageable to connect a new section to.

            Ill have to replace the whole thing eventually, but hopefully the quick fix will last through the summer, and I can do the complete project in the winter.

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            • romantic comedy
              Afourian MVP
              • May 2007
              • 1912

              #7
              I bought black iron online for a much better price then the plumbing supply.
              Dont recall the vendor. Plumbing supply .com?

              They also had SS for a decent price. Brass was more then SS.

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              • edwardc
                Afourian MVP
                • Aug 2009
                • 2491

                #8
                Originally posted by LemonShark2 View Post
                I think I got a bit lucky. It broke half way through the threading on a connection of two pipes, ...
                This isn't luck. Exhaust pipe nipples almost always fail at the threads. The thickness of the pipe wall is at a minimum there due to the depth of the threads. That's why everybody recommends schedule 80 pipe. The walls are thicker, but the threads are still cut to the same depth, so you get the benefit of all the extra thickness.

                Sch 40 1 1/4 pipe is 0.140 inches thick, while
                Sch 80 1 1/4 pipe is 0.191 inches thick.

                (Source: http://products.anssteel.com)
                @(^.^)@ Ed
                1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
                with rebuilt Atomic-4

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                • goodoldboat
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2017
                  • 130

                  #9
                  cooling system

                  Grainger has it .. just ordered it on Friday they are shipping to my local grainger for pick up
                  S/V Gosling
                  Westport CT .

                  “Believe me, my young friend, there is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing- as simply messing about in boats.”
                  ― Kenneth Grahame

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                  • sastanley
                    Afourian MVP
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 6986

                    #10
                    GOB, thanks for the info..maybe LS2 will order some too!
                    -Shawn
                    "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                    "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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                    • LemonShark2
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 59

                      #11
                      I ended up going to a proper plumbing store, they had everything I needed including some rust buster to clean the older threading. They managed to get the fitting that the soft hose attaches to off, which saved me $23 of buying a brass fitting, which was the only one they had!

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                      • LemonShark2
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 59

                        #12
                        I think my total was less than $25.

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                        • LemonShark2
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2016
                          • 59

                          #13
                          Bump / update with new question

                          When I originally created this thread I was looking into replacing all of the hot section piping on the boat from where it had rusted to the point of breaking at one section and onward.


                          I was able to find the correct pipes to replace the old piping, but i have an issue of not being able to connect them to rusted threading on the old pipe section. I'm not able to disconnect the old pipe.

                          I'm looking for a solution to joining two pipes together without having to thread them together. maybe a flexible section that I can use hose clamps to tighten onto each pipe. Needs to be heat proof so it wont melt!

                          My final important caveat - this is super temporary, I only need to be able to motor the boat 5 miles, at which point I am passing it off to a boat yard to be chopped up and parted out. (I already own the next boat)

                          Any advise is welcome...

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