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  • ArtJ
    • Sep 2009
    • 2175

    #16
    Main passage plug replacement

    I heard back from customer support at zenith regarding the main passage
    plug.

    The part no is C138-24 for the plug
    The part no is T56-23 for the washer

    They gave me a couple of distributors to order from

    VE Peterson in Ohio 1-800-537-6212

    They also mentioned Syracuse & Electric in NY.

    Regards

    Art

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    • hanleyclifford
      Afourian MVP
      • Mar 2010
      • 6990

      #17
      Art - Check out McMaster Carr #7910K11. I'm not sure I buy that business about tapping a 3/8" NF to 1/8" NPT and getting a leak. I think I'll give it a try on one of my spare carbs. Regards, Hanley

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      • hanleyclifford
        Afourian MVP
        • Mar 2010
        • 6990

        #18
        Art - I did a little experiment. Drilled with "S" bit, not "Q". Tapped for 1/8"NPT. The plug is a Zenith carb drain item. Regards, Hanley P.S. Forgot to mention the nut was originally a 3/8"NF, same as the carb passage plug.
        Last edited by hanleyclifford; 07-13-2016, 08:36 PM.

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        • ArtJ
          • Sep 2009
          • 2175

          #19
          Thanks for the info Hanley

          I will check it out
          Regards

          Art

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          • ArtJ
            • Sep 2009
            • 2175

            #20
            Hanley

            I checked out 7910K11


            A couple of questions

            The 1/8 version is not marine approved as are the larger sizes

            What would be needed to adapt the 2 inch (wow big?) female to a
            hose barb?

            Regards

            Art

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            • rheaton
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2005
              • 135

              #21
              Why not just turn off your fuel line valve, and use the engine to run the fuel system dry.

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              • ArtJ
                • Sep 2009
                • 2175

                #22
                For 2 reasons

                First, the carb must be bleed with fuel to remove particles in the jet.

                Second, if it was run dry, the system may need to be bleed again to
                get the air out.

                Regards

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                • ArtJ
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2175

                  #23
                  The reason for the bleed is when the engine shuts down due to jet
                  clog and you are
                  at sea and cannot bleed with a hot engine but need to run it to stay off
                  rocks or othe hazards.

                  Regards

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                  • ArtJ
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 2175

                    #24
                    Originally posted by ArtJ View Post
                    I heard back from customer support at zenith regarding the main passage
                    plug.

                    The part no is C138-24 for the plug
                    The part no is T56-23 for the washer

                    They gave me a couple of distributors to order from

                    VE Peterson in Ohio 1-800-537-6212

                    They also mentioned Syracuse & Electric in NY.

                    Regards

                    Art
                    I just spoke with Peterson The Plugs are $4 each, so are the washers.
                    They had one plug in stock, will backorder a couple more for me.
                    They will ship via mail for a few dollars, vs $10 for UPS

                    Regards

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                    • ArtJ
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2175

                      #25
                      Originally posted by hanleyclifford View Post
                      Art - I did a little experiment. Drilled with "S" bit, not "Q". Tapped for 1/8"NPT. The plug is a Zenith carb drain item. Regards, Hanley P.S. Forgot to mention the nut was originally a 3/8"NF, same as the carb passage plug.
                      I warmly suggest that if this drain valve project comes to fruition we warmly and gratefully dub it the "Hanley Handle"


                      Regards

                      Art

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                      • ArtJ
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 2175

                        #26
                        I was just wondering, is there a standard hose barb that could be
                        directly threaded into the 3/8 passage? Possibly using one of the
                        90 degree street ells first for clearance issues? The shutoff could
                        then be in line with the hose at a convenient point. Possibly just
                        use a standard tank shutoff valve with barbs?

                        Would there be any issues with the standing fuel in the first section
                        of hose? Course it could be drained periodically. Would it affect the
                        jet operation?

                        Regards

                        Art

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                        • ArtJ
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 2175

                          #27
                          Barb directly to passage?

                          A thought just occurred to me - is it possible to direclly thread a hose
                          barb into the passage block, possible with a 90 degree street ell for
                          clearance issues first?

                          The shutoff could be put at a convenient place in the hose line, using
                          a standard tank shutoff valve with hose barbs.

                          Would there be any issues with having a section of hose with gas in it
                          directly connected to the main jet passage. Would this affect jet operation?

                          Regards

                          Art

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                          • ArtJ
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2175

                            #28
                            Sorry about double post

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                            • hanleyclifford
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6990

                              #29
                              Art - I think we are getting a little carried away with this business of "fuel approved" and "marine approved" as enunciated by office experts. Very few things on a boat are really "approved". How about fan belts, batterys, copper, coolant hoses. I"m not advocating dangerous installations but let's not get wrapped around the axle on labels. 7910K11 can be adapted with 9171K62 to obtain the "marine blessing" but as Neil has rightly pointed out we want to be careful about hanging too much weight on that carb bowl. Regards, Hanley

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                              • ArtJ
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 2175

                                #30
                                Hi Hanley

                                What do you think of the barb directly in idea? It would reduce weight
                                Regards

                                Art

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