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  • edwardc
    Afourian MVP
    • Aug 2009
    • 2491

    Stuck Race

    While disassembling an MMI pedestal pump that had failed bearings, the outer race from one of the bearings stayed behind in the pump housing. It moved partway out before the bearing disintegrated.

    Now I have this race stuck in the housing. It's too narrow to use the wood dowel tool to tap it out (just chews the edge off the dowel) , and I don't want to use a steel drift pin for fear of scarring up the inside of the housing because of the angle required to reach it through the impeller chamber hole.

    Any clever suggestions?
    Last edited by edwardc; 05-29-2019, 07:34 AM. Reason: Typo
    @(^.^)@ Ed
    1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
    with rebuilt Atomic-4

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  • Dave Neptune
    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
    • Jan 2007
    • 5046

    #2
    Ed, take a large cold chisel and grind an angle punch on it to get into the housing. Might as well try something pretty much nothing to loose.

    Dave Neptune

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    • lat 64
      Afourian MVP
      • Oct 2008
      • 1964

      #3
      I don't visualize your situation yet but a slide hammer is one of my go-to bearing pullers. I also have a 3/4-inch brass drift I use when I don't want to mar metal. Perhaps a copper pipe instead of wood(?)
      sigpic Whiskeyjack a '68 Columbia 36 rebuilt A-4 with 2:1

      "Since when is napping doing nothing?"

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      • edwardc
        Afourian MVP
        • Aug 2009
        • 2491

        #4
        Russ,

        This is what I've got (not to scale)
        Attached Files
        @(^.^)@ Ed
        1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
        with rebuilt Atomic-4

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        • Dave Neptune
          Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
          • Jan 2007
          • 5046

          #5
          Edward, lots of light taps. Sorta worry it out and be sure it is on something "Solid" to mke the strikes worth while. Keep working around the circle.

          May try a bit of heat. I'm not sure but I think the coefficient of expansion is greater in the housing. Worth a try throwing it in the oven before you start tapping.

          I have extracted literally hundreds of bearings in my hobbies and work! The hrdest thing for me to learn was that most always it was faster to "fashion" a punch or the pawls on my slide hammer than the knocking out of the bearing.

          I worked on old wet cylindrical grinders most all of my life. You have not seen the havoc grinding dust from carbide can create unless you've done it!!!

          Dave Neptune

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          • Dave Neptune
            Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
            • Jan 2007
            • 5046

            #6
            PS

            Edward, the short small diameter is for the seal and a nic or two won't hurt as they can be "smoothed" and a bit of sealant will take care of the rest.

            Good luck.

            Dave Neptune

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            • romantic comedy
              Afourian MVP
              • May 2007
              • 1912

              #7
              Heat and slide hammer with special home made tool to fit.

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              • Al Schober
                Afourian MVP
                • Jul 2009
                • 2007

                #8
                I'm sure my heat gun would be in my tool kit for this job. Put the impeller cavity up, put the heat to the area by the bearing, and it might just drop out.

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                • edwardc
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 2491

                  #9
                  A lot of great ideas,which I will have to try when we get home. Still just over a week away.

                  As for the slide hammer/custom tool, are you just envisioning hooks of some sort? No way to get a disk of the correct size above the race.
                  @(^.^)@ Ed
                  1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
                  with rebuilt Atomic-4

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                  • Marian Claire
                    Afourian MVP
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1768

                    #10
                    Would the old bent flat head screwdriver trick work?
                    Dan
                    S/V Marian Claire

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                    • ndutton
                      Afourian MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 9601

                      #11
                      Do I understand you've replaced the pump and don't need it for the remainder of the trip?
                      Neil
                      1977 Catalina 30
                      San Pedro, California
                      prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                      Had my hands in a few others

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                      • Peter
                        Afourian MVP
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 296

                        #12
                        Ed,

                        Amazing deals on this 5Pc Slide Hammer And Puller Set at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.


                        A bit pricey but this is the tool for the job.

                        Peter

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                        • edwardc
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2491

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ndutton View Post
                          Do I understand you've replaced the pump and don't need it for the remainder of the trip?
                          Yes. I had the old pump with the bad bearings in my spares locker, and wanted to rebuild it before touching, and possibly screwing up, the working (but leaking ) pump. Alas, I couldn't do it and had to bite the bullet and commit to removing and rebuilding the leaking pump. Fortunately. All went well and it's up and running. Now I'm just trying to have a spare ready for next time!


                          Originally posted by Peter View Post
                          Ed,

                          Amazing deals on this 5Pc Slide Hammer And Puller Set at Harbor Freight. Quality tools & low prices.


                          A bit pricey but this is the tool for the job.

                          Peter
                          But if it lets me buy a $122 rebuild kit instead of a $315 pump, I'm still ahead of the game! Besides, it's an excuse to buy a new TOOL!
                          @(^.^)@ Ed
                          1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
                          with rebuilt Atomic-4

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                          • lat 64
                            Afourian MVP
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1964

                            #14
                            Don't forget about tool rental.
                            And the cheapest yet; borrow it.
                            sigpic Whiskeyjack a '68 Columbia 36 rebuilt A-4 with 2:1

                            "Since when is napping doing nothing?"

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                            • edwardc
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 2491

                              #15
                              This Harbor Freight Three-Jaw Pilot Bearing Puller turned out to be the perfect solution. Worked like a champ. And at $19.99, its hard to argue with!
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                              Last edited by edwardc; 06-09-2019, 02:13 PM.
                              @(^.^)@ Ed
                              1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
                              with rebuilt Atomic-4

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