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  • PT26
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 253

    #31
    Well, I guess I should have checked the points before we left.
    I did think about it and brought a spare distributer all ready to drop in thinking mine were just fine... Not!
    Of course the engine died in the middle of the shipping channel
    I had to drop the outboard on the back of the boat to get to the anchorage.
    The coil was hot so at first I thought that was the culprit so I changed it.
    She ran but not so well.
    I pulled the distributer cap and what a mess.
    When I pulled the spare out the magneto was in the wrong place it would rub the alternater belt, ugg.
    Next best thing, I robbed all the parts out of the spare and put them in the old one.
    Dropped it back in and the A4 is back to purring like a kitten.
    Tied up in the dismal and it's time for a nap after being up late last night.
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    Paul
    S/V PT26
    1971 Grampian G26 W/A4


    "The Devil never comes to you with a pitchfork and a ball of fire"

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    • sastanley
      Afourian MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 6986

      #32
      whew..that is looking a little rough!
      -Shawn
      "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
      "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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      • PT26
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 253

        #33
        Yes it was points they were looking pretty bad but all is well now.
        We made it to South Mills today.
        Wow the duck weed was thick, and there were islands of it we had to motor around.
        Thank God for the back up engine. We would get in the thick of it and the temp would rise fast on the A4 even though we have a large raw water intake.
        If we had a thermostat or strainer there was no way we would get through.
        As soon as we saw the temp rise we would shut down and run the other engine.
        It seemed to wash the duck weed off the intake and then we could go again.
        We passed a couple sailboats anchored in the middle of the swamp, over heated, dead in the water. We offered help but they said no, I'm ok with that.
        The one bad thing about the duck weed and duck weed islands in the middle Of the Channel is you can't see the five logs ( big ones) underneath.
        We hit them but no damage.
        We also hit six or seven times branches or something with the prop but there again no damage, the man was looking out for us today!
        So we're in South Mills, we made the bridge, and tied up between the lock and the bridge on the bulkhead, and I'm of to get some southern fried chicken!
        Attached Files
        Paul
        S/V PT26
        1971 Grampian G26 W/A4


        "The Devil never comes to you with a pitchfork and a ball of fire"

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        • sastanley
          Afourian MVP
          • Sep 2008
          • 6986

          #34
          Yucko on the duckweed from a boat perspective. Is it good environmentally for the Bay and southern tributaries?

          Regardless, go the PT-26!
          -Shawn
          "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
          "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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          • PT26
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 253

            #35
            We pulled into Elizabeth city, the A4 coughed some and died just before the bridge
            She had been running for about 5 or six hours no problem.
            We grabbed the new free dock at the college instead of trying the bridge.
            I opened the gas cap and it sounded like it had pulled a vacuume!?
            I was thinking it might be the water seperator, so I changed it.
            After changing it she started and died, ugg.
            I checked for a vacuume and there wasn't one but she did not want to start.
            So I checked the coil it's fine, I pulled the distributer cap and it appeared to have had some moisture on it and I just changed all the parts out.
            I cleaned it all thoroughly put it back together and then had a beer.
            Boat yoga seems to require beer!
            So it fired up and ran for an hour, so I quit and hit the berth for some shut eye.
            I'm still at a loss as to what happened?
            Then next morning I warmed her up for about 30 minutes just to make sure and went for the bridge and made it through fine. We motored down the Pasquotank a bit and then sailed the rest of the way.
            We made it across the Ablemarle sound on a beautiful day, what a break!
            We entered the alligator River and fired up the A4 and she acted like nothing ever happened. Same the next morning we motored all the way to Belhaven.
            I don't like not knowing what happened, it just kinda freaks me out.
            Paul
            S/V PT26
            1971 Grampian G26 W/A4


            "The Devil never comes to you with a pitchfork and a ball of fire"

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            • ndutton
              Afourian MVP
              • May 2009
              • 9601

              #36
              If it happens again try running with the fill cap open provided you can do so without the risk of water entering the tank.
              Neil
              1977 Catalina 30
              San Pedro, California
              prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
              Had my hands in a few others

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              • PT26
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 253

                #37
                Ok, good idea that would show if it's a vacuume right?
                But if it is, what could it be? I changed all the hoses to the new kind before I started because I knew I would end up with ethanol gas at some point.
                Thanks for the help!
                Paul
                S/V PT26
                1971 Grampian G26 W/A4


                "The Devil never comes to you with a pitchfork and a ball of fire"

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                • zellerj
                  Afourian MVP
                  • May 2005
                  • 304

                  #38
                  spiders? kinked vent line?

                  Spider webs have been known to plug up the gas tank vent lines. Or the line could be old and kinked. If opening up the gas tank cap when your engine is bogging down fixes the issue, I would check out the gas tank vent line.
                  Jim Zeller
                  1982 Catalina 30
                  Kelleys Island, Ohio

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                  • PT26
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 253

                    #39
                    Super idea!
                    I never thought about a spider!
                    It sat on the hard about 18 months.
                    They are tiny enough to get past the vent screen.
                    I have a small air compressor on board and I'm going to take the vent line off and blow air through it.
                    I checked the line since you suggested it, tore everything out of the
                    lazzeret (sp) lol but the line is free of kinks so it might just be one of those little buggers.
                    Thanks for the suggestions.
                    Paul
                    S/V PT26
                    1971 Grampian G26 W/A4


                    "The Devil never comes to you with a pitchfork and a ball of fire"

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                    • ndutton
                      Afourian MVP
                      • May 2009
                      • 9601

                      #40
                      Check the vent line for a continuous uphill run from tank to vent fitting, no sags or traps allowed. If you have a low area it's possible a full tank could burp some fuel into the vent and seal it off at the trap.
                      Neil
                      1977 Catalina 30
                      San Pedro, California
                      prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                      Had my hands in a few others

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                      • PT26
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 253

                        #41
                        Ok,
                        I will check it out and make sure it's correct, I didn't think of this either.

                        Thanks a bunch for the help!
                        Paul
                        S/V PT26
                        1971 Grampian G26 W/A4


                        "The Devil never comes to you with a pitchfork and a ball of fire"

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                        • lat 64
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 1964

                          #42
                          Originally posted by PT26 View Post
                          Super idea!
                          I never thought about a spider!
                          It sat on the hard about 18 months.
                          They are tiny enough to get past the vent screen.
                          I have a small air compressor on board and I'm going to take the vent line off and blow air through it.
                          I checked the line since you suggested it, tore everything out of the
                          lazzeret (sp) lol but the line is free of kinks so it might just be one of those little buggers.
                          Thanks for the suggestions.
                          Jack White spells it Lazaretto

                          I'll be in Fla. in late December. I'll check in on this thread and say Hi. We'll be neighbors for a few days.
                          sigpic Whiskeyjack a '68 Columbia 36 rebuilt A-4 with 2:1

                          "Since when is napping doing nothing?"

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                          • PT26
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 253

                            #43
                            Very cool, we are taking it easy so we will see you down there.
                            The A4 ran great yesterday afternoon coming into Oriental so I guess I got the vent tube cleaned out! No sign of the vacuume issue.
                            Thanks again guys.
                            Paul
                            S/V PT26
                            1971 Grampian G26 W/A4


                            "The Devil never comes to you with a pitchfork and a ball of fire"

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                            • lat 64
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1964

                              #44
                              We'll be on the Gulf side and fly home on Christmas eve. Probably won't actually "see" you. We're doing the family and friends plan.
                              sigpic Whiskeyjack a '68 Columbia 36 rebuilt A-4 with 2:1

                              "Since when is napping doing nothing?"

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                              • Crazer
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2011
                                • 96

                                #45
                                Watching your progress with interest. I recently acquired a Grampian, although it's really such in name only. A Peter Van Dyne designed Classic 31. Glad to hear your trip is going well. Cheers!

                                As an aside, we recently worked on a boat that had a cracked holding tank that resulted from a clogged vent. I check all my vents as part of spring commissioning.
                                -Avery

                                Rhodes Swiftsure 33 SV “Clio”
                                Sparrow’s Point, MD

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