Pearson 35 Upgrading to 2 to 1 reduction

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  • jeffgerritsen
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 37

    #16
    As promised pictures...


    The engine compartment at the beginning - NOTICE THE CAN of PB in lower right corner!!!



    This is an example of the wire mess to clean up



    I have enough room - barley for the 2:1 unit and flex coupler. Maybe a good time to convert to a drip-less seal
    Last edited by jeffgerritsen; 02-02-2011, 03:26 PM.

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    • roadnsky
      Afourian MVP
      • Dec 2008
      • 3101

      #17
      Originally posted by hanleyclifford View Post
      The specification is 90 - 125 psi. You're still in the bracket, Bro.
      Whew! Had me worrying about the higher numbers...
      -Jerry

      'Lone Ranger'
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      1978 RANGER 30

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      • Administrator
        MMI Webmaster
        • Oct 2004
        • 2166

        #18
        Is this "sanitation hose"? Even if yes, does this make a difference?

        Bill
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        • ndutton
          Afourian MVP
          • May 2009
          • 9601

          #19
          Originally posted by Administrator View Post
          Is this "sanitation hose"? Even if yes, does this make a difference?
          Heavens YES!
          Not for use below the waterline.
          Neil
          1977 Catalina 30
          San Pedro, California
          prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
          Had my hands in a few others

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          • Mo
            Afourian MVP
            • Jun 2007
            • 4468

            #20
            Double Clamps

            I would change the hose but I note the double clamps. All hoses coming off thru-hulls should be double clamped. Something to look at on our boats and double up if not already done.

            When I bought my boat all were single. I replaced thru hulls, hoses and put on double T-Bolt SS clamps.

            I live in Halifax NS and there is a Industrial Business Park about 15 minute drive from the house. Goodyear Rubber has an outlet there and reinforced hose for any application can be had...including exhaust. I find it much less expensive than going to a Marine Store and they also have the Heavy Duty SS clamps at reasonable prices.
            Mo

            "Odyssey"
            1976 C&C 30 MKI

            The pessimist complains about the wind.
            The optimist expects it to change.
            The realist adjusts the sails.
            ...Sir William Arthur Ward.

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            • Laker
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 454

              #21
              Sky -

              I think those compression numbers are outstanding. Nicely consistent.

              Laker
              1966 Columbia 34 SABINA

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              • roadnsky
                Afourian MVP
                • Dec 2008
                • 3101

                #22
                Originally posted by Laker View Post
                Sky -

                I think those compression numbers are outstanding. Nicely consistent.
                Gee... Thanks!
                -Jerry

                'Lone Ranger'
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                1978 RANGER 30

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                • jeffgerritsen
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 37

                  #23
                  Bill,
                  It's not sanitation hose - it's a super heavy duty water supply hose used for floating homes. It's clear so one can see the water line, and bursting psi is about 160. A real PIA to work with. The white band is a re-enforcing band moulded into the hose for the PSI rating. The hose is smooth on inside and outside.

                  Originally posted by Administrator View Post
                  Is this "sanitation hose"? Even if yes, does this make a difference?

                  Bill

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                  • jeffgerritsen
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 37

                    #24
                    Hanley,
                    Are you refering to me or to roadnsky?

                    Originally posted by hanleyclifford View Post
                    The specification is 90 - 125 psi. You're still in the bracket, Bro.

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                    • hanleyclifford
                      Afourian MVP
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6990

                      #25
                      Jeff - Your wet figures for 1,2, and 3 - 140 psi are high. Too much compression.

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                      • sastanley
                        Afourian MVP
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 6986

                        #26
                        There is also a debate about the dripless seal. If the bellows fail, the boat sinks. I completely rebuilt my boat from the rear main seal to the prop this summer when I wish I was sailing, and I chose the traditional Buck Algonquin stuffing box. With gore-tex style packing, it is almost dripless. I just can't justify the cost and complexity of the PSS (or similar) shaft seals. (see my topic named "Indigo" for more details.)

                        To stay on topic: even for my C-30, I'd consider a 2:1 reduction drive if I thought it was worth the money though =
                        -Shawn
                        "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                        "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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                        • hanleyclifford
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 6990

                          #27
                          I've never seen a Catalina 30 with a 2:1 reduction gear installed. Can any one post a picture of one?

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                          • sastanley
                            Afourian MVP
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 6986

                            #28
                            Hanley, neither have I, but I'd like to see one..the biggest issue seems to be prop clearance... A 12" prop has only about 1.5" of clearance with the hull if I remember.

                            The other issue is I am happy with my Indigo prop, but it is not a significant improvement from my 12 x 7 Michigan Wheel 2-blade prop that came with the boat, so I am thinking the next evolution is a properly sized prop with a 2:1 reduction. - it is my theory..not proven.

                            A Catalina 30 has a 25' LWL with a 10,500 lbs. displacement.
                            -Shawn
                            "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                            "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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                            • tony201
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 40

                              #29
                              Jeff

                              Before you do anything , double you compression gage with another one

                              Comment

                              • jeffgerritsen
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 37

                                #30
                                Engine is finally out!!!

                                Well I've finally got the engine removed. With several ideas floating around on this and other websites, with the help of a fork lift, a long stinger, and a six foot long pipe to act as a fulcrum - the engine is out. Now what a mess to clean up:


                                Those fibreglass frame rails, I'm thinking about using epoxy coated white oak for spacers to raise the engine the extra 1.042 inches due to the drop in shaft output when I install the 2:1 gear reduction unit. The frame rails are about .375 inches thick so adding motor mounts looks like an exercise in futility, unless I do a lot of cutting and re-glassing.

                                Any comments on using white oak spacers or should I got to the effort and rig up some system to install motor mounts for vibration reduction?
                                Last edited by jeffgerritsen; 02-23-2011, 01:50 PM.

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