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Re: ethanol
Of the known problems with ethanol on board . . . .
Ask yourselves, if you believe ethanol really causes all these problems why are some of us running trouble free for years, even decades? Shouldn't we have problems too?
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Neil 1977 Catalina 30 San Pedro, California prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22 Had my hands in a few others |
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IP: 207.118.20.35
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The Biobor JF seems to do the job, even though it is meant for diesel. Biobor says it also attacks microbes growing in the water in a fuel tank. But apparently I should be using Biobor EB as well. It has no biocide, but is a gas stabilizer. Or maybe I don't need either.
Thanks, Neil for pointing out the known problems with ethanol. Others would add phase-separation and corrosion to that list. You are absolutely right that there are ways to continue to use ethanol, by having a clean and water-free tank, and ethanol-resistant tank, hoses, pump diaphragm, float valve needle, etc. Whether ethanol highlights fuel system problems or creates them doesn't matter, IMO . Either way the carb and filters get clogged with goo, and I have a problem (engine shutdown). Stopping the use of ethanol evidently got rid of the problem. I had a tank cleaning guy look at my boat once, and he said the tank, and therefore the engine or the cockpit sole, would have to be removed, because his equipment wouldn't turn the corners in the fill hose. It may well be that my tank (stainless steel) has water and crud in it. I would prefer that it stay in there, so I can run my engine. I know the proper way to deal with it is to clog filters and carb jets until ethanol removes all the crud in the tank, but I need my engine to run dependably. Engine shutdowns are bad for business. Since my local gas docks have only non-ethanol gas, I don't have to be forced to get a new tank. To me, not having a reliable engine is a dealbreaker. I continue to be amazed by the lack of outrage that many are required to use a fuel that dissolves their fuel tanks and hoses. Boaters must deal with the potential for fiery disaster, to subsidize agribusiness. |
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IP: 72.218.163.249
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"including kidnapping the Lindbergh baby"- I thought they caught that guy.
My boat never has had anything but ethanol fuel since it was introduced. No problems- yet. Hoses were changed out years ago and I check the O ring every time I gas up. And add Sta-bil.
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Bill McLean '76 Ericson 27 :valhalla: Norfolk, VA |
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Moment of Zen
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Applying the spirit of this post I do my best to give the engine every opportunity to perform well by having systems outside the actual engine as pristine as possible. I'm sure others feel differently but it has worked well for me.
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Neil 1977 Catalina 30 San Pedro, California prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22 Had my hands in a few others |
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IP: 70.186.210.78
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Good point Neil. A high percentage of A4 problems turn out to be external to the engine - contaminated fuel, leaking fuel lines, clogged exhaust, corroded/loose wires, blocked water intake, fouled prop, damaged cables....
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Thanks Tim. What I want out of all this is for as many folks as possible to enjoy the engine reliability that I have for many years. To that end all I can do is recommend what has worked for me.
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Neil 1977 Catalina 30 San Pedro, California prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22 Had my hands in a few others |
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