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  • edwardc
    Afourian MVP
    • Aug 2009
    • 2491

    Exhaust Flange Thread Size?

    A quick question.

    I'm about to rebuild my exhaust system. Does anyone know the diameter and thread pitch of the internal threads in the MMI exhaust flange?
    @(^.^)@ Ed
    1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
    with rebuilt Atomic-4

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  • Dave Neptune
    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
    • Jan 2007
    • 5046

    #2
    Flange

    Ed, I think it is a 1 1/2" NPT.

    Dave Neptune

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    • sastanley
      Afourian MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 6986

      #3
      Sorry Dave - 1 1/4" NPT. I must have bought every piece & combination of 1.25" pipe from about 3 different stores until I found a good combination for my hot section.

      Ed, check out my thread from last year.
      Last edited by sastanley; 07-28-2010, 02:50 PM. Reason: add link
      -Shawn
      "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
      "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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      • hanleyclifford
        Afourian MVP
        • Mar 2010
        • 6990

        #4
        Ed - 1 1/4" is the correct answer for the stock flange. But if you want to upgrade your system, the flange can easily be opened up to 1 1/2" for a huge gain in performance. Regards, Hanley

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        • edwardc
          Afourian MVP
          • Aug 2009
          • 2491

          #5
          Originally posted by hanleyclifford View Post
          Ed - 1 1/4" is the correct answer for the stock flange. But if you want to upgrade your system, the flange can easily be opened up to 1 1/2" for a huge gain in performance. Regards, Hanley
          Thanks, guys. I got in there with a caliper and confirmed that it's a 1 1/4" on the flange.

          On my existing system, it has a short nipple into a bushing that takes it up to 1 1/2, and the rest of the plumbing up to the muffler is 1 1/2".

          Another question.

          Having fought with too many rusted-solid exhaust systems, and broken off many bolts & studs and had to hacksaw things apart, I was planning to do this system in red brass & bronze. But I found that McMasters has the same parts in stainless steel for almost the same price.

          So my question is: Ignoring price, is there any reason to perfer one material over the other? I'm guessing that stainless is stronger, but brass & bronze are easier to make a tight connection. Is one more corrosion resistant in a hot, salt-water environment?
          @(^.^)@ Ed
          1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
          with rebuilt Atomic-4

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          • hanleyclifford
            Afourian MVP
            • Mar 2010
            • 6990

            #6
            Ed - Interesting that your system goes up to 1 1/2" via a nipple and bushing. That is exactly how I did my first upgrade when I started re-engineering exhaust systems. I currently have a flange opened up to 1 1/2", then a close nipple, then a bushing up to 2". It was an evolutionary thing. Your decision to go to bronze or stainless is a new one for me. I know that stainless does not like an anerobic environment so if you are planning to wrap it you might get some corrosion. Bronze on the other hand has a very different rate of expansion from cast iron so you might get some fitting issues there. What ever you decide to use, I would go to studs and nuts on the manifold.

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            • ndutton
              Afourian MVP
              • May 2009
              • 9601

              #7
              Edward,

              You might want to review this thread from a few months ago.

              Neil
              1977 Catalina 30
              San Pedro, California
              prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
              Had my hands in a few others

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              • 67c&ccorv
                Afourian MVP
                • Dec 2008
                • 1559

                #8
                The only thing that I would say about stainless is that some grades of the stainless steel stand up to the continual hot/cold expansion/contraction cycle better than others.

                I would look through a properties chart and select based on that charachteristic over all else in this application.

                Cheers!

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                • David Masury
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 265

                  #9
                  I am chuckling
                  for a huge gain in performance
                  ... and then we ask it to push water out a long tube.

                  David

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                  • 67c&ccorv
                    Afourian MVP
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 1559

                    #10
                    All 30HP of it!

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                    • Dave Neptune
                      Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 5046

                      #11
                      30?

                      In a direct drive A-4 I doubt you'll ever see 30 HP, maybe a lil over 20. You can't get the RPM's for that much power.

                      Dave Neptune

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