1972 E27-Fixing Everything

[CajunSpike]

My observations of EYo are probably more related to my needs and personality. Have nothing against them.

I'm a new owner who knew little to nothing about this boat, but learning fast.
Didn't know anybody or have any idea what to tell people on the EYo site.
Discussing about having an Ericson, where I live, and where I was going with it were not helpful to the problem of fixing it.

When I posted about engine issues on EYo I was directed here, correctly.

Here I got help fixing it. The feedback was totally supportive. I felt welcome.
That's what was/is important to me at this point.

If you've read this thread, you've seen the amount of work that's been done so far.
I'm a very mechanical type person. This site gave me what I'm interested in.

Just one of those personal choices. I don't mean to slight anyone.

[alcodiesel]

Sure, Bill, I'll snap a picture.
The sink does go to the thru hull beneath it but via some sort of weird PO-Rube Goldberg pipe kind of thing. If it ever causes me problems I will simplify its routing. In the mean time it works and I go sailing.

[CajunSpike]

The sink does go to the thru hull beneath it but via some sort of weird PO-Rube Goldberg pipe kind of thing.

I wonder if that is some kind of backflow preventer.
The thought occurred to me if I directly connect the drain to the thru hull and open the valve, there's nothing to stop water from coming up into the sink.
Not even sure if the sink is above the waterline. I think it is.

This is why I'm asking questions before touching anything.
Its entirely possible that contraption failed and they removed it intentionally.
I'd hate to hook it up direct only to find the boat sitting on the bottom next time I visit.

[ndutton]

Cajun, your static waterline is at the main cabin seat level. The sink being only slightly off the centerline means these's no risk of backflooding hard on stbd tack either if connected directly to a thru-hull.

BTW, all thru-hull valves on my boat (5 thru-hulls) are kept closed unless the associated system is in use and ALL valves are closed when the boat is unoccupied. It's the first line of defense.

[joe_db]

FYI - I took a quick look at the Ericson forum. That forum and this one may not be perfect, but if those are the only two places you go, you have no idea how bad it could be. Some sailing forums require one to have a very thick skin and tolerance for pornographic suggestions on what to do with your problems if you want to stay on them.
I truly enjoy this refuge from that kind of thing

[alcodiesel]

I concur with Joe on the 2 forums and with Neil on sink back flooding. On hard stbd tack my sink gurgles but never any back flood. Come to think of it I think it does the same on port tacks. Bottom line: it's above heeled water lines.

[ndutton]

Please don’t interpret my observation of some Ericson owners’ elevated opinion of their brand as a criticism of their forum. Like here they conduct themselves honorably with a passion for helping each other out.

[CajunSpike]

Since the engine runs pretty reliably(has started on every crank since adjusting points), the shifter now works as needed(so I don't hit a piling again), and a fresh clean fuel tank(that doesn't leak) is now installed, I going to try to go motor around the marina this Sunday. A mechanic friend wants to come along. If no issues, I may actually head out to Lake Pontchartrain and raise a sail. Saturday is supposed to be bad weather.
If you're bored see where the boat is on Google Earth, I'm at South Shore Harbor Marina, New Orleans, LA.

http://www.marinasinneworleans.com/SSH.htm

Google map link:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/South+Shore+Harbor+Marina/@30.0402296,-90.0159429,581m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8620a9c6d12c11f9:0x7add4badc64c3f6!8m2!3d30.0380591!4d-90.0155759?hl=en

Done lots of fixing, its time for a trial run.
:-)

Doesn't matter to me what kind of boat you have.
Doesn't matter what forums there are.
All that matters is you are here and personally care enough to help when needed.

All the net does is let you see who people really are without anything getting in the way.
Its a pretty safe bet that if you are here helping, you're a darn good person outside this forum as well.
The good people will always outweigh the others.

Thank you.

Its sort of like fishing.
Keep the good people and throw the rest back.

[Dave Neptune]

Tenders, I never had a problem even in some pretty nasty stuff. I did have the OB model with a cutout at he CL of the cockpit for the OB. I did not like that and mounted mine on a slide bracket and used the cutout for a boarding ladder when at the island~worked great.

BTW I used 3/8" poly for the down shot in the drain so it was not to big around anyway.

Dave Neptune

[joe_db]

Please don’t interpret my observation of some Ericson owners’ elevated opinion of their brand as a criticism of their forum. Like here they conduct themselves honorably with a passion for helping each other out.

I have an elevated opinion of C&Cs. I think everyone should have an elevated opinion of their boat, otherwise how do you get motivated to spend all your money, get cut up, get epoxy in your hair, and otherwise torment yourself to make the old girl work again
(kind of like if your old VW rusts, off to the junkyard, but if your old Porsche rusts you blame yourself for not taking better care of the car. Nevermind the Karman factory made both bodies with the same steel and the same workers )

[marthur]

Diesel owners find us insufferable, with our incessant jokes about whether they like the noise or the vibration better

For me, it is the smell of fresh diesel in the morning.....

Mike
Formerly a multiple A-4 owner, now running a Yanmar 2GM20F.

[Dave Neptune]

Mike, me too. I know run a Yanmar 4JGH3~56HP@3600. No real smells unless down wind motoring or changing out fuel filters. Mine is very well insulated and still not as quiet as the ole A-4 at hull speed in my ex E-35 MKII. Loved that boat and owned it for 34 years. We'll see if the new Bene holds up as well if I live that long.

Dave Neptune

[CajunSpike]

The shrimp boat I had originally came with a 454 chevy.
I would go out with 75 gallon main tank, 40 gallon 2nd tank and an 18 gallon 3rd tank.
Would burn most of that in a typical trip.

Motor started puffing smoke out the valve covers.

Spoke to several shops and every one said it would take $10,000 to pull the chevy and install a diesel.

Couldn't afford it.

So I went to junkyard and found a 6.9 ford diesel cheap. Did all the conversion from chevy to ford myself.
Invented several parts to connect the marine trans and chevy barr exhaust marine manfolds to the ford heads.

After about $3000 i was happily going shrimping with only the 75 gallon main tank and using maybe 1/2 of that on a trip.

So I can speak about both sides of the gas/diesel discussion.

At my marina there is a guy with a 30 something Beneteau I've made friends with.
He took me out on his boat a few times as lessons.
Nice guy.

[alcodiesel]

Hi Bill, here's a pic or two of the sink drain. Why a PO put in a valve in seems to indicate back flooding in the past. But I have never closed the valve and have never experienced any sea water coming up in the sink, no matter how heeled over.

Why he or she used a, what is it, half inch, valve, is unknown. Perhaps the set up is, like you said, designed to prevent back flood. Maybe it's just stoopid. It does slow the sink draining though. Someday I plan to simplify it- but that day is not today- I'd rather go sailing.

In the pics the thru hull is maybe 8" aft of the sink drain and slightly inboard. The valve thing is dumb as far as I am concerned.

[CajunSpike]

Awesome photo. I can see where the valve can be a safety thing.
At least its not a specialized contraption that can't be replaced/repaired if needed.

Thats a busy location in your boat!
Mine is almost empty under the sink.

Thank you sir.