2012 Return Run to the Vineyard

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  • hanleyclifford
    Afourian MVP
    • Mar 2010
    • 6990

    2012 Return Run to the Vineyard

    This is the continuation of the "2011 Coastal Run to Florida" thread. It will feature preparations and corrections made based on lessons learned while southbound. The fuel issue is already being addressed. Two fuel pumps plumbed in parallel with individual shut-off valves and polishing filters have been installed. Actually all I did was put my spare "on line". In addition a second separator/filter will be installed near the portable tank. Pictures will be forthcoming. The alternator is in the shop for a new diode trio. A second (Motorola) has had it's internal regulator removed and the unit is now installed temporarily. It uses the same regulator as the Balmar but has no stator terminal and I will find out if this is a problem. Another planned project is a means of checking voltage throughout the system with a rotary switch at the voltmeter.
  • Mo
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    • Jun 2007
    • 4468

    #2
    Staying tuned for the updates...!
    Mo

    "Odyssey"
    1976 C&C 30 MKI

    The pessimist complains about the wind.
    The optimist expects it to change.
    The realist adjusts the sails.
    ...Sir William Arthur Ward.

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    • hanleyclifford
      Afourian MVP
      • Mar 2010
      • 6990

      #3
      Motorola 35 on line

      Having gutted the regulator of the Motorola 35 I returned it to the unit to simply cover the "insides" and conduct the new lead directly to the field terminal. The Transpo V1500 regulator seems to be handling the back up well even without a stator connection. However, I discovered significant variances at different points in the system. Most importantly, the alternator reading 14.5 V at the output terminal only yields 14.2 V at the main bus bar and 13.2 at coil + (granted I have the fuel pump and raw water pump on the same circuit). The now vacated terminal that used to carry the red wire from the built in regulator now shows 15 V+. I suspect this is because it is "deadended", unlike the output terminal. All this makes it clear to me that voltage in the dynamic system is anything but constant and I do not think that wire and connection resistances account for much of these variances, but rather "bleed off" thru various appliances. The same discussion holds for oil pressure.
      Last edited by hanleyclifford; 04-20-2014, 10:13 AM.

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      • hanleyclifford
        Afourian MVP
        • Mar 2010
        • 6990

        #4
        Finally learned this new (to me) computer and ready (I hope) to test upload/resize function. 2:1 alternator drive restored; note old Motorola standing in for wounded Balmar.
        Last edited by hanleyclifford; 07-13-2016, 08:32 PM.

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        • sastanley
          Afourian MVP
          • Sep 2008
          • 6986

          #5
          Hanley, looking good!
          -Shawn
          "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
          "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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          • hanleyclifford
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            • Mar 2010
            • 6990

            #6
            Oops! Forgot picture of instructor.
            Last edited by hanleyclifford; 07-13-2016, 08:32 PM.

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            • sastanley
              Afourian MVP
              • Sep 2008
              • 6986

              #7
              Good Times, Hanley. Too bad it was such a short visit getting to see your boat that we did most of the yapping with flashlights in the dark!

              Look forward to your return trip, especially with the updated idea you got from Dave Neptune in the other thread - re: better fuel filtration.
              -Shawn
              "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
              "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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              • hanleyclifford
                Afourian MVP
                • Mar 2010
                • 6990

                #8
                You never know where your next lesson is going to come from. I answered a post and ended up learning something and formulating a new plan - I guess that's why we're here.

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                • hanleyclifford
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 6990

                  #9
                  Balmar 712 now back on station after getting new diode rectifier. It turns out that the Balmar is very much like an Hitachi. Also, here is a plug for the good folks at Lenz Auto Electric in Titusville. Good workmanship at fair prices.
                  Last edited by hanleyclifford; 07-13-2016, 08:32 PM.

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                  • Dave Neptune
                    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 5046

                    #10
                    ?

                    Hey Hanley, are you replacing your "filters"? I just was thinking about how much trouble some have with fuel this morning and then I thought of my Racor. I installed it 8 years ago (in March) and realized it is still the original filter cartridge . I have changed my "before the carb" unit twice only because I change fuel lines. I do suck the KRAP out of the bottom of my tank every few years or so though. And I only buy my regular gas at a major gas station and carry down to the boat, I've just heard to many horror stories regarding marina gas.
                    Food for thought.

                    Fair winds _/) _/)
                    Dave Neptune

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                    • hanleyclifford
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                      • Mar 2010
                      • 6990

                      #11
                      Dave - Have not changed the filters yet but that is in the works. Neil with his diagram has got me all motivated for a complete replumb of my fuel system. I have positively had enough of this fuel problem. I'll be posting on this matter soon.

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                      • ndutton
                        Afourian MVP
                        • May 2009
                        • 9601

                        #12
                        Hanley,

                        If you don't have an extra return port available on the tank we have a simple solution. Let me know if this is the case.
                        Neil
                        1977 Catalina 30
                        San Pedro, California
                        prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                        Had my hands in a few others

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                        • hanleyclifford
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 6990

                          #13
                          The plan at this time is to use the tank with the highest "head" on the engine as the constant supply tank. Conveniently, this tank also has an old fashioned dip stick gauge which will be cobbled into a return port. After investigating some prices I have scaled back my plan to the more simple approach suggested by Neil. A diverter valve will be installed just before the carb but downstream of the polishing filter (7-10 micron). The other two tanks will become "satellite" tanks for the original. I will post a diagram soon.

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                          • hanleyclifford
                            Afourian MVP
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 6990

                            #14
                            Hello Afourians. Comments appreciated on the picture attached. Please note: this is not a fuel polishing system. This is a...device, fuel, pressure regulating, recirculating, 1 ea.
                            Last edited by hanleyclifford; 07-13-2016, 08:32 PM.

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                            • hanleyclifford
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6990

                              #15
                              Almost forgot - the cobble job de resistance:
                              Last edited by hanleyclifford; 07-13-2016, 08:32 PM.

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