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  • M Neben
    Frequent Contributor
    • Jul 2009
    • 5

    Rear Oil Seal Tools

    Has anyone purchased the rear oil seal removal and replacement tools from Moyer that you would loike to rent? or loan? Mike Neben, Dana Point, CA
  • keithems
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 376

    #2
    just did the seal

    you really don't need the special tools

    get 3 2" bolts to get the flange off

    there's a good tech note from don on how to do it w/ or w/out the tools

    k
    keithems
    [1976 c&c 30 mk 1]

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    • keithems
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 376

      #3
      here:

      keithems
      [1976 c&c 30 mk 1]

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      • marthur
        Afourian MVP
        • Dec 2004
        • 831

        #4
        I found that I didn't have enough room to use all of the tools- the gap between the prop shft couplers wasn't big enough. But the long handle to hold the shaft steady was really handy.
        Mike

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        • keithems
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 376

          #5
          Important question

          in the mmi manual rebuilding / reassembly section, don says that the output coupling has to be seated against a special flat washer which is not shown in the universal parts diagram.

          i am reassembling and i have not found such a washer. is don referreing to the flat lock washer with the ears you bend to hold the nut on at the end?

          thanks
          keithems
          [1976 c&c 30 mk 1]

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          • 13jeff13
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 302

            #6
            Originally posted by keithems View Post
            in the mmi manual rebuilding / reassembly section, don says that the output coupling has to be seated against a special flat washer which is not shown in the universal parts diagram.

            i am reassembling and i have not found such a washer. is don referreing to the flat lock washer with the ears you bend to hold the nut on at the end?

            thanks
            I encountered that washer just yesterday when I get home from work I'll take a picture and posted it is flat on 1 side and concave on the other.
            Last edited by 13jeff13; 06-10-2012, 12:23 PM. Reason: typo
            With Powerboats, it's about the destination. With Sailboats, you are already there.

            Jeff

            S/V Karinya
            1973 Grampian 30', Full Keel, A4 aux.
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            • 13jeff13
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 302

              #7
              Originally posted by 13jeff13 View Post
              I encountered that washer just yesterday when I get home from work I'll take a picture and posted it is flat on 1 side and convex on the other.
              It rides on the tail shaft of the reversing gear.
              With Powerboats, it's about the destination. With Sailboats, you are already there.

              Jeff

              S/V Karinya
              1973 Grampian 30', Full Keel, A4 aux.
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              • 13jeff13
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2011
                • 302

                #8
                Originally posted by 13jeff13 View Post
                It rides on the tail shaft of the reversing gear.
                To be more clear there is a convex permanent washer on the shaft that is part of the shaft and the concave washer fits up against it.
                With Powerboats, it's about the destination. With Sailboats, you are already there.

                Jeff

                S/V Karinya
                1973 Grampian 30', Full Keel, A4 aux.
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                • keithems
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 376

                  #9
                  what concave washer?

                  all that came off the shaft were some ball bearing assemblies, rings, etc. i see the permanent washer on the shaft but the only other one i have loose is the lock washer with the ears, which the final nut butts up onto, per the mmi manual.

                  can u tell me the part # of the concave washer as listed in the pasts diagram in the universal motors parts manual?
                  keithems
                  [1976 c&c 30 mk 1]

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                  • 13jeff13
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 302

                    #10
                    Originally posted by keithems View Post
                    all that came off the shaft were some ball bearing assemblies, rings, etc. i see the permanent washer on the shaft but the only other one i have loose is the lock washer with the ears, which the final nut butts up onto, per the mmi manual.

                    can u tell me the part # of the concave washer as listed in the pasts diagram in the universal motors parts manual?
                    I don't have the parts manual but I can find it when I get home online maybe. Im at work on my mobil now.
                    With Powerboats, it's about the destination. With Sailboats, you are already there.

                    Jeff

                    S/V Karinya
                    1973 Grampian 30', Full Keel, A4 aux.
                    sigpic

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                    • keithems
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 376

                      #11











                      click diagram to decrease its size
                      Ref. Part # Description Quantity
                      Req'd Price
                      Each
                      1 203032 BEARING,BALL 1 31.13
                      2 261034 SPACER,BEARING REAR 1 11.55
                      3 261065 GASKET,BEARING HOUSING 2 2.97
                      4 261060 HOUSING,BEARING TRANSMISSION 1 86.57
                      5 261062 Oil Seal Retainer 1
                      6 239919 SEAL,OIL 1 21.45
                      7 231059 5/16 x 1 Hex head capscrew
                      Part number has changed to:
                      Westerbeke 31555 6
                      8 231891 5/16 lock washer
                      Part number has changed to:
                      Westerbeke 31758 3
                      9 260703 WASHER,COPPER 3 2.64
                      10 261035 TAILSHAFT 1 960.19
                      11 206511 Woodruff Key - Tail Shaft 2 0.67
                      12 261040 COUPLING,ENGINE DIRECT DRIVE 1 323.73
                      13 263762 LOCKWASHER,TAILSHAFT 1 8.91
                      14 263761 NUT,TAILSHAFT 1 16.28
                      15 263641 KEY,COUPLING 1 3.30
                      15A 259626 Reverse Gear & Tailshaft Assembly 1
                      keithems
                      [1976 c&c 30 mk 1]

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                      • keithems
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 376

                        #12
                        i think i have & understand everything in this diagram

                        the problem is that in the mmi manual [rebuilding, reassembly section] don says the flat washer is not listed in any parts manual...maybe that once was true but no longer is?

                        btw-- the parts manual and owners manual for the a4 is available & downloadable at cncphotoalbum.com
                        Last edited by keithems; 06-10-2012, 12:54 PM.
                        keithems
                        [1976 c&c 30 mk 1]

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                        • 13jeff13
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 302

                          #13
                          Originally posted by keithems View Post
                          http://www.marinedieseldirect.com/ca...Group&size=800










                          click diagram to decrease its size
                          Ref. Part # Description Quantity
                          Req'd Price
                          Each
                          1 203032 BEARING,BALL 1 31.13
                          2 261034 SPACER,BEARING REAR 1 11.55
                          3 261065 GASKET,BEARING HOUSING 2 2.97
                          4 261060 HOUSING,BEARING TRANSMISSION 1 86.57
                          5 261062 Oil Seal Retainer 1
                          6 239919 SEAL,OIL 1 21.45
                          7 231059 5/16 x 1 Hex head capscrew
                          Part number has changed to:
                          Westerbeke 31555 6
                          8 231891 5/16 lock washer
                          Part number has changed to:
                          Westerbeke 31758 3
                          9 260703 WASHER,COPPER 3 2.64
                          10 261035 TAILSHAFT 1 960.19
                          11 206511 Woodruff Key - Tail Shaft 2 0.67
                          12 261040 COUPLING,ENGINE DIRECT DRIVE 1 323.73
                          13 263762 LOCKWASHER,TAILSHAFT 1 8.91
                          14 263761 NUT,TAILSHAFT 1 16.28
                          15 263641 KEY,COUPLING 1 3.30
                          15A 259626 Reverse Gear & Tailshaft Assembly 1



                          Nope not there...but look in the Moyer marine catalog under overhaul section then reversing gear and it is called a beveled spacer
                          With Powerboats, it's about the destination. With Sailboats, you are already there.

                          Jeff

                          S/V Karinya
                          1973 Grampian 30', Full Keel, A4 aux.
                          sigpic

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                          • 13jeff13
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 302

                            #14
                            Originally posted by keithems View Post
                            i think i have & understand everything in this diagram

                            the problem is that in the mmi manual [rebuilding, reassembly section] don says the flat washer is not listed in any parts manual...maybe that once was true but no longer is?

                            btw-- the parts manual and owners manual for the a4 is available & downloadable at cncphotoalbum.com
                            Maybe the beveled spacer is in the parts manual under reversing gear? Thanks for the links. I've never seen that.
                            Last edited by 13jeff13; 06-10-2012, 01:02 PM.
                            With Powerboats, it's about the destination. With Sailboats, you are already there.

                            Jeff

                            S/V Karinya
                            1973 Grampian 30', Full Keel, A4 aux.
                            sigpic

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                            • 13jeff13
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 302

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 13jeff13 View Post
                              Maybe the beveled spacer is in the parts manual under reversing gear? Thanks for the links. I've never seen that.
                              Actually now that I've read the description in the online catalog you need that spacer if you have a direct drive. I am not sure about other configurations.
                              With Powerboats, it's about the destination. With Sailboats, you are already there.

                              Jeff

                              S/V Karinya
                              1973 Grampian 30', Full Keel, A4 aux.
                              sigpic

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