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  • ArtJ
    • Sep 2009
    • 2175

    Magnetic Ring Cracks when installing

    I am upgrading my spare late model engine to use Petronix instead of
    points.

    I tried to install the magnetic ring using a 9/16 socket and small hammer
    as suggested in the Moyer instruction sheet. I could not get the
    ring to seat without considerable force. This resulted in the ring
    cracking.

    The ring was installed correctly oriented on 1 of 4 flats and proper side
    up.

    There is little evidence of corrosion on the distributor shaft.

    Has any else had difficulty installing this ring?

    Just now received a email from Don Moyer he suggested using
    a hair dryer to heat the ring when installing.
    How much heat is enough?

    Would appreciate comments from others who have experienced
    similar issues installing the ring.
    Best Regards

    Art
  • thatch
    Afourian MVP
    • Dec 2009
    • 1080

    #2
    Art, I have installed about 10 of the magnetic rings including 2 on my A4's and have never had to use more than just finger pressure. The heat trick might do the job or you might try cleaning up the distributor cam a little more.
    Tom

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    • sastanley
      Afourian MVP
      • Sep 2008
      • 6986

      #3
      Art, I cracked mine too, but like Tom, I was able to push it on by hand, but it did take two thumbs. To get the ring in the correct position to line up with the ignitor unit, the top collar of my ring broke off, so I could then slide the ring down on the distributor shaft enough to align it.
      -Shawn
      "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
      "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
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      • ArtJ
        • Sep 2009
        • 2175

        #4
        Which way is the top of the ring ? I believe that the separable ring is the
        part which hold the 4 magnets in place.
        The only way it would go on was
        with the separable ring facing down. I just retry'd it again with the broken part
        won't go on with separable facing up.
        the actual main body developed a
        complete vertical split on one side. the separable part which holds the
        magnets was facing down and separated as well.

        Do you guys have early model distributor? The early model only requires
        1/4 inch clearance whereas the late model requires 7/16 inch.
        Last edited by ArtJ; 02-18-2014, 01:21 PM.

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        • thatch
          Afourian MVP
          • Dec 2009
          • 1080

          #5
          Art, I just went to my shop and removed and then re-installed the mag ring on my spare A4. What I found was that it would slide part of the way down but then I had to rotate it slightly to find the "sweet spot" to push it down the rest of the way. Still, just thumb pressure was needed.
          Tom

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          • thatch
            Afourian MVP
            • Dec 2009
            • 1080

            #6
            Oops, mine is a late model also.
            T

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            • ArtJ
              • Sep 2009
              • 2175

              #7
              Thatch

              Which end is the top ?


              Thanks

              Art

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              • ArtJ
                • Sep 2009
                • 2175

                #8
                I just spoke with Petronix. They are sending me a new magnetic ring at no cost.
                They said I was installing it correctly as it will only go on one way. I also
                noticed some splash over from the mold

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                • ArtJ
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 2175

                  #9
                  Success

                  Installed the new Ring today. It initially would not go on either. However;
                  Persuasion from the judicious use of a carefully placed heat gun warmed
                  it up just enough so that it would slide all the way down! Success

                  Best Regards

                  Art

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                  • thatch
                    Afourian MVP
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1080

                    #10
                    Congrat's on the mag-ring success. Just out of curiosity, do you live in one of those cold weather states, where the ring installation may have been hampered because of "temperature shrinkage"? Like I said before, I've never had a problem installing those rings but I am generally doing it in 80+ So.Cal weather.
                    Tom

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                    • ArtJ
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 2175

                      #11
                      Hi Thatch

                      Yup, I live in New Hampshire. It has been very cold and snowy here lately.

                      But that should have shrunk the "post" and since the ring was indoors, it
                      should have helped things.
                      the engine was in a cold attached garage.

                      Don M thought I might have a slightly oversized post.

                      Regards

                      Art
                      Last edited by ArtJ; 02-21-2014, 07:41 PM.

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                      • romantic comedy
                        Afourian MVP
                        • May 2007
                        • 1912

                        #12
                        this worries me that the ring might crack with temperature changes

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                        • sastanley
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 6986

                          #13
                          RC, mine hasn't yet, any worse than it cracked trying to install it, after 6+ years..but who knows?
                          -Shawn
                          "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                          "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
                          sigpic

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                          • Ball Racing
                            Afourian MVP
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 506

                            #14
                            I had the same trouble of not being able to get the ring on.
                            I damaged the ring some, then took it off, and tried it on a different distributor, it FIT?
                            So I measured the distributor cams and there were at least .020 difference between the two.
                            So I then swaped in the smaller cam.
                            I bought a spare ring, same deal, the cams are the difference..
                            Tyring to keep the Bay's Wooden Boat's history from dying off completely.
                            Daniel

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