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  • joe_db
    Afourian MVP
    • May 2009
    • 4474

    What instruments do you have?

    I am curious as to what instruments people have.
    Note that filter vacuum is a gauge between the filter and fuel pump and tank vacuum is a gauge on the input side of the pump.
    Voltmeter is a voltmeter in the engine panel, not just a voltmeter anyplace on the boat.
    703
    Fuel Level
    0%
    84
    Fuel Pressure
    0%
    18
    Filter Vacuum
    0%
    2
    Tank Vacuum
    0%
    1
    Volts
    0%
    73
    Amps
    0%
    107
    Oil Pressure
    0%
    154
    Oil Temp
    0%
    8
    Water Temp
    0%
    147
    Water Pressure
    0%
    6
    Tachometer
    0%
    93
    Manifold Vacuum
    0%
    10
    Joe Della Barba
    Coquina
    C&C 35 MK I
    Maryland USA
  • Dave Neptune
    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
    • Jan 2007
    • 5046

    #2
    Guages

    In the cockpit I have an electric oil preassure guage, ammeter, and water temp. I have a control panel at the nav station which is visable while motoring and/or working on the engine there I have a volt meter tied to the power panel, a tach and a vacuum guage for the manifold. In the box I have a static oil preassure guage and a static fuel preassure guage at the carb with a shut off valve. I have it laid out this way so when I need to know something while diagnosing something going amiss it is all visable while working on the beastie.
    Dave Neptune

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    • joe_db
      Afourian MVP
      • May 2009
      • 4474

      #3
      I am more than surprised to find 2 water pressure gauges!
      What do they usually read?
      Joe Della Barba
      Coquina
      C&C 35 MK I
      Maryland USA

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      • ILikeRust
        Afourian MVP
        • Sep 2010
        • 2198

        #4
        My boat is an older boat - 1968 - so it's pretty basic compared to modern boats. It has an engine hours gauge which no longer works, water temp, oil press, tach and amps. No fuel gauge - my fuel gauge is a high-tech organic fuel gauging device, a/k/a a 1/4" birch dowel that sticks into the tank.

        The knotmeter is long dead and I plan on yanking the little paddlewheel and through-hull out over the winter and also pulling out the gauge and doing something else with the hole left behind. The wind direction and speed indicator also is long dead, so that probably will go too. I have a standard windex on top of the mast that does the job for me.

        My brand new Garmin chartplotter shows speed over ground, so I don't miss the knotmeter at all. It also can show wind speed and direction, but that obviously requires the proper device at the top of the mast. Maybe I'll do that someday.
        - Bill T.
        - Richmond, VA

        Relentless pursuer of lost causes

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        • Dave Neptune
          Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
          • Jan 2007
          • 5046

          #5
          Water preassur guage

          Joe, I use them on a few things especially my big outboards. The guage will read low if the pump is getting weak or the intake side is getting plugged and if it goes up you have a restriction building in the system. It is a great warning device if you pay attention to it.

          Dave Neptune

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          • joe_db
            Afourian MVP
            • May 2009
            • 4474

            #6
            I have seen them on outboards. You need to see the water pressure with a jacking plate so you don't raise the engine too far. I have yet to see one on an inboard though. I wonder what the normal reading for an A4 is?
            Joe Della Barba
            Coquina
            C&C 35 MK I
            Maryland USA

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            • Dave Neptune
              Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
              • Jan 2007
              • 5046

              #7
              Preassure

              Joe, on almost every hot boat I have raced in or ski raced in has one on each engine. I have also used them on almost anything that has been modified to go fast, and it is as you stated to be sure they are picking up water at speed.
              Don may know what the preassure should be, I would guess between 6 to 8 psi on a motor such as these.

              Don~~~?

              Dave Neptune

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              • joec43
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2004
                • 51

                #8
                I not only vote for, I am a firm believer in the 1/4" birch fuel gauge.
                It served me well, and it never failed...................

                potogold.wordpress.com

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                • Marian Claire
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1768

                  #9
                  Birch fuel gauge, tachometer, water temp plus oven thermometer on head and oil pressure. Have purchased and plan to install an inline fuel pressure gauge as soon as I work thru an issue with the fuel system that just came up over the last few weeks of banging around the Pamlico Sound. Dan S/V Marian Claire

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                  • Dave Neptune
                    Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 5046

                    #10
                    Stick

                    Joe, I have recently upgraded for a 3/8" mohagany fuel guage, albeit a bit tough to read in much of a sea it has never failed.
                    Dave Neptune

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                    • lat 64
                      Afourian MVP
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 1964

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ILikeRust View Post
                      The knotmeter is long dead and I plan on yanking the little paddlewheel and through-hull out over the winter and also pulling out the gauge and doing something else with the hole left behind. The wind direction and speed indicator also is long dead, so that probably will go too. I have a standard windex on top of the mast that does the job for me.

                      My brand new Garmin chartplotter shows speed over ground, so I don't miss the knotmeter at all. It also can show wind speed and direction, but that obviously requires the proper device at the top of the mast. Maybe I'll do that someday.
                      Don't chuck that wind speed transponder 'til you are sure it is junk.
                      It might be able to send NMEA 083 sentences to you new Garmin. Not as fast a sample rate as the Garmin network proprietory stuff, but it might work.
                      Stranger things have been done.
                      A case in point(in theory):
                      I have an old pre-GPS-era Raytheon radar that will acept NMEA 083 Loran C sentences via a cable to display the Lat-Lon on the old crt. My Garmin E-trex will output those fake loran C sentences to a simple two-wire data cable. All I gotta do is hookem up poor boy style.(I think)
                      With the cost of nav instruments, I look at everything

                      Russ
                      sigpic Whiskeyjack a '68 Columbia 36 rebuilt A-4 with 2:1

                      "Since when is napping doing nothing?"

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                      • Mark S
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 421

                        #12
                        Birch, oil pressure, water temperature, amperes and tach. I'd like to add an engine hour meter because I never remember to look at the clock when starting and stopping the engine and my log notes are estimates only. The GPS monitors volts.

                        The other gauges probably have their uses but I think I'd be asking for trouble trying to add them by fiddling with fuel, oil and water systems that date from the first Nixon administration. I can eyeball the water exiting the exhaust and the oil probably isn't going to scorch without the water temperature gauge noticeably rising and the oil pressure gauge getting funky.

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                        • rigspelt
                          Afourian MVP
                          • May 2008
                          • 1186

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ILikeRust View Post
                          My brand new Garmin chartplotter shows speed over ground, so I don't miss the knotmeter at all.
                          This is another of those endless debates, like whether to carry a sextant or use paper charts (I have both, so having declared myself you know where this is going). I like the knotmeter for checking engine performance. I also like to know current for navigation, which means knowing speed through the water as well as speed over the ground. But without a knotmeter, for navigation purposes I guess one can always "see" current by watching the GPS breadcrumb track trend, and for engine monitoring purposes, one can always check speed/rpm curve on a calm day at slack water.

                          Like MarkS, I added an engine hours clock too.
                          1974 C&C 27

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                          • ArtJ
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 2175

                            #14
                            Originally posted by rigspelt View Post
                            This is another of those endless debates, like whether to carry a sextant or use paper charts (I have both, so having declared myself you know where this is going). I like the knotmeter for checking engine performance. I also like to know current for navigation, which means knowing speed through the water as well as speed over the ground. But without a knotmeter, for navigation purposes I guess one can always "see" current by watching the GPS breadcrumb track trend, and for engine monitoring purposes, one can always check speed/rpm curve on a calm day at slack water.

                            Like MarkS, I added an engine hours clock too.
                            I like having a paddlewheel knotmeter in addition to gps speed.
                            It allows me to monitor forward speed independent of bottom speed
                            which is useful when combined with RPM to monitor engine speed
                            thru the water .Helps detect dirty bottom,amount of current fighting.
                            Most recently bought a Moor knotmeter, works well. $200 vs$600 for
                            DMI.

                            Regards

                            Art

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                            • Marian Claire
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 1768

                              #15
                              The knot meter on the MC was not functioning properly when I bought her so I disconnected it. On a calm day, using my GPS, I made runs at varying RPMs to set a base RPM/MPH list. I use MPH because the ICW is in statute miles. So I know how fast I should be going and can determine the effect of wind and current. I can usually judge my speed fairly closely by observing the bubbles off the stern. This system does not work well when in a current. It is basically opposite. If the bubbles are ripping by I am probably going slower than expected for the RPMs into a strong current. If they are slow moving I am likely moving faster than expected with the current. Does the knot meter give the same “reversed” readings? If anchored in a 2 knot current does the meter read 2 knots? Dan S/V Marian Claire

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