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  • amizerin
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2019
    • 47

    Tachometer install

    My Grampian 28 does not have factory installed tachometer - only oil pressure, temperature and ammeter gauges. Some owner before me installed an electronic gauge like on the picture but I don't think it's accurate. The minimum RPM it shows is 2800 when idle. Sometime it shows 5000 - 6000 when pull throttle to push the boat a little bit forward or reverse. All in all, it seems to be not working properly.

    A couple questions I have.
    Which RPM gauge is recommended?
    How to wire it into the engine?
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  • ndutton
    Afourian MVP
    • May 2009
    • 9601

    #2
    Have you gone through the select button functions to be sure it is on 4 cylinders?
    Neil
    1977 Catalina 30
    San Pedro, California
    prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
    Had my hands in a few others

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    • amizerin
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2019
      • 47

      #3
      Originally posted by ndutton View Post
      Have you gone through the select button functions to be sure it is on 4 cylinders?
      I did not play with the button but probably you're right. There might be a switch between 2 and 4 cylinders.

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      • jcwright
        Afourian MVP
        • Jul 2012
        • 158

        #4
        A review of an hour/tach that resembles yours notes the following:

        "They always work on one cylinder engines. With multi-cylinder engines they often pick up signals from more than one cylinder."

        This might explain why your lowest RPM is 2800 (actually 700?).

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        • amizerin
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2019
          • 47

          #5
          Originally posted by jcwright View Post
          A review of an hour/tach that resembles yours notes the following:

          "They always work on one cylinder engines. With multi-cylinder engines they often pick up signals from more than one cylinder."

          This might explain why your lowest RPM is 2800 (actually 700?).
          That sounds like exactly what's happening Well... I'm not sure I like to do the math dividing by 4 every time I check RPM. Is there a solution for that? A gauge that works with 4 cylinders?

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          • ndutton
            Afourian MVP
            • May 2009
            • 9601

            #6
            Originally posted by amizerin View Post
            Is there a solution for that? A gauge that works with 4 cylinders?
            MMI catalog?
            Neil
            1977 Catalina 30
            San Pedro, California
            prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
            Had my hands in a few others

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            • amizerin
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2019
              • 47

              #7
              How to I connect the RPM gauge to the engine?

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              • ndutton
                Afourian MVP
                • May 2009
                • 9601

                #8
                It depends on the gauge. The typical gas engine tachometer such as you'll find with Moyer gets 12VDC + and - plus a wire to the '-' terminal on the coil.

                Another style of gauge (diesel style, I have one) gets 12VDC + and - plus a signal from the alternator. Unless your alternator already has an AC tap for this purpose I would avoid this type of tach. It also requires calibration because of different pulley ratios on different engines. In other words, much more hassle.
                Last edited by ndutton; 09-20-2019, 11:52 AM.
                Neil
                1977 Catalina 30
                San Pedro, California
                prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
                Had my hands in a few others

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                • amizerin
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2019
                  • 47

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ndutton View Post
                  It depends on the gauge. The typical gas engine tachometer such as you'll find with Moyer gets 12VDC + and - plus a wire to the '-' terminal on the coil.

                  Another style of gauge (diesel style, I have one) gets 12VDC + and - plus a signal from the alternator. Unless your alternator already has an AC tap for this purpose I would avoid this type of tach. It also requires calibration because of different pulley ratios on different engines. In other words, much more hassle.
                  Thank you! I believe any tachometer suitable for 4 cylinder engine will work?

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                  • JackConnick
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 168

                    #10
                    I'd like to add a 2" tach to my A4. But I have no sensor or previous install to wire to.

                    If I read the above correctly, it just simply wires to the coil and counts pulses? No other sensor is required?

                    I've tried some of those electronic ones and agree they are junk...

                    TIA,
                    Jack

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                    • Al Schober
                      Afourian MVP
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 2007

                      #11
                      I don't think you need tach installed full time - just when you're doing diagnostics.
                      My meter is an antique Heathkit dwell/tachometer - probably 50 or 60 years old. Analog meter. It clips to the coil, so you have to set it for the number of cylinders. If it died, I'd look on Amazon - dwell tachometer - and see what's offered. My eyesight being what it is, I'd probably look for a big analog meter. Don't need digital.

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                      • JackConnick
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 168

                        #12
                        No, I sometimes hear a miss or something while underway, maybe water in my fuel or something. I like to be able to check and also calibrate my boat speed to tach.

                        Jack

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                        • edwardc
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 2491

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JackConnick View Post
                          ...If I read the above correctly, it just simply wires to the coil and counts pulses? No other sensor is required?...
                          That is correct. The tach hooks to the "-" terminal of the coil and counts pulses as the points (or the EI) brings that terminal to ground.

                          Most Gas engine tachs have some sort of switch or jumpers to set the number of cylinders (1, 2, 4, 6, 8). Occasionally, this switch will be labeled in "pulses per revolution" instead of "cylinders". For the A4 (or any 4 cylinder 4-cycle engine), this should be set to "2" (1 pulse per cyl every 2 revs x 4 cyls = 2 pulses per rev)
                          @(^.^)@ Ed
                          1977 Pearson P-323 "Dolce Vita"
                          with rebuilt Atomic-4

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