How old is your Atomic 4 engine? Poll by decade.

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  • CalebD
    Afourian MVP
    • May 2007
    • 895

    How old is your Atomic 4 engine? Poll by decade.

    I just looked up some info on the 'pedigree' of the Universal Atomic 4 engine and found out that the A4 was produced from 1947 - 1984. Here is a link about the A4's history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Atomic_4
    My engine is pretty old but I am curious how many older A4 engines are even older. I also wonder about the distribution of newer A4s.
    It may take some time for a meaningful amount of data to build up but I've got some time - I hope!
    393
    1945 - 1950
    0%
    0
    1951 - 1955
    0%
    0
    1956 - 1960
    0%
    6
    1961 - 1965
    0%
    24
    1966 - 1970
    0%
    61
    1971 - 1975
    0%
    147
    1976 - 1980
    0%
    134
    1981 - 1985
    0%
    13
    1986 - present
    0%
    4
    Don't know
    0%
    4
    Tartan 27 #328 owner born 1958
    A4 and boat are from 1967
  • Marian Claire
    Afourian MVP
    • Aug 2007
    • 1768

    #2
    Two 1965's # 77345 and # 77414. Dan S/V Marian Claire

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    • ndutton
      Afourian MVP
      • May 2009
      • 9601

      #3
      My research shows that Universal ceased production of the A-4 in 1980 but continued to ship engines until 1984.
      Last edited by ndutton; 07-26-2011, 12:08 AM.
      Neil
      1977 Catalina 30
      San Pedro, California
      prior boats 1987 Westsail 32, 1970 Catalina 22
      Had my hands in a few others

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      • Dave Neptune
        Afourian MVP, Professor Emeritus
        • Jan 2007
        • 5044

        #4
        4 decades

        My lil' beastie is going on it's 42nd year and it's original except for a new #4 exhaust valve installed 26+ years ago. I've had 2 exhaust manifolds and replaced the head gasket when I did the valves (valve job) and got the siezed A-4 I'd just purchased cheap because it needed an "engine". I also installed a new oberdorfer water pump about 7 or 8 years ago. Other than that just standard good maintenance practices.
        It's never left me stranded yet!!!

        Dave Neptune

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        • chiron
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 112

          #5
          I don't know for sure but since the boat was built in 1964 and its an early model I'm sticking with that, although there have been obvious upgrades like electric ignition, fresh water cooling, oil filter, and carb.

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          • CalebD
            Afourian MVP
            • May 2007
            • 895

            #6
            It's an atomic 4

            Originally posted by ndutton View Post
            My research shows that Universal ceased production of the A-4 in 1980 but continued to ship engines until 1984.
            I'm sure you are correct about that Neil. They had parts enough to keep going for nearly 4 years until 1984 when they introduced the Atomic diesel (likely a 5434, 3 cylinder combustion chamber engine).

            Marketing is everything.
            Tartan 27 #328 owner born 1958
            A4 and boat are from 1967

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            • Jlmatt
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2006
              • 71

              #7
              On my engine the block is a late model. But it works with the original head and the generator from 1961.

              Jean-Luc
              sigpicJean-Luc
              1961 Pearson Triton, "Daphnis"

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              • Laker
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 454

                #8
                072077 , a bit younger than the craft propelled .
                1966 Columbia 34 SABINA

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                • sastanley
                  Afourian MVP
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 6986

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ndutton View Post
                  My research shows that Universal ceased production of the A-4 in 1980 but continued to ship engines until 1984.
                  Hi Neil, I have spoken with an old salt (at the bar, where else ) that said he worked for Westerbeke in 1980 when they went into the Oshkosh plant & shut it down when Westerbeke 'bought out' Universal. This I would consider a reliable source, except I think his liver has seen a lot of use in the last 30 years. His memory still seems to be intact. I would take this information to mean that Westerbeke didn't like the Atomic4 and wanted to stop production to remove any competition from the market & allow diesels to take over...too bad.

                  The rumor I've heard is that Catalina continued to put A-4's into their boats until 1982 due to a large stockpile they had purchased prior. I might have heard this from Max Munger or read it on the Catalina30 class website.

                  Caleb, since you started the poll, here is the data I have. The casting date stamped on my engine block in my '77 model year boat is April 1976. I have the serial number floating around somewhere.. - edit, it is #197258 .
                  Last edited by sastanley; 08-02-2011, 11:10 AM. Reason: proper serial number
                  -Shawn
                  "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                  "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
                  sigpic

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                  • Mo
                    Afourian MVP
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 4468

                    #10
                    I have a 76 and a 79. The 79 is a drop in spare in the garage.
                    Mo

                    "Odyssey"
                    1976 C&C 30 MKI

                    The pessimist complains about the wind.
                    The optimist expects it to change.
                    The realist adjusts the sails.
                    ...Sir William Arthur Ward.

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                    • ILikeRust
                      Afourian MVP
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 2198

                      #11
                      Although my boat was made in 1968 and came from the Pearson plant with an A4, the A4 that was in it when I bought it last year was made and installed in 1983. Well, at least it was marketed as a 1983, whether it actually was "made" in that year, I dunno. But I have the receipt from 1983 and the original owner's manual in among the paperwork that came with the boat.

                      So mine is one of the last...
                      - Bill T.
                      - Richmond, VA

                      Relentless pursuer of lost causes

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                      • weephee
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 65

                        #12
                        How old is your Atomic 4 Engine

                        Does anyone have a picture or ad showing what the original A4's looked like.

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                        • ILikeRust
                          Afourian MVP
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 2198

                          #13
                          I don't know if this is the "original" style, but it definitely is an older style:



                          - Bill T.
                          - Richmond, VA

                          Relentless pursuer of lost causes

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                          • Ball Racing
                            Afourian MVP
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 506

                            #14
                            What part of the serial number gives you the build date?
                            Tyring to keep the Bay's Wooden Boat's history from dying off completely.
                            Daniel

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                            • sastanley
                              Afourian MVP
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 6986

                              #15
                              I have a separate stamping on the block...it is just aft of the oil pressure sending unit hole & under the valve side plate..I didn't see it until last spring.

                              edit - here is a better pic, showing the casting date.

                              Last edited by sastanley; 08-02-2011, 12:04 PM.
                              -Shawn
                              "Holiday" - '89 Alura 35 #109
                              "Twice Around" - '77 C-30, #511 with original A-4 & MMI manifold - SOLD! (no longer a two boat owner!!)
                              sigpic

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