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amizerin 09-20-2019 10:33 AM

Tachometer install
 
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My Grampian 28 does not have factory installed tachometer - only oil pressure, temperature and ammeter gauges. Some owner before me installed an electronic gauge like on the picture but I don't think it's accurate. The minimum RPM it shows is 2800 when idle. Sometime it shows 5000 - 6000 when pull throttle to push the boat a little bit forward or reverse. All in all, it seems to be not working properly.

A couple questions I have.
Which RPM gauge is recommended?
How to wire it into the engine?

ndutton 09-20-2019 11:01 AM

Have you gone through the select button functions to be sure it is on 4 cylinders?

amizerin 09-20-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ndutton (Post 118554)
Have you gone through the select button functions to be sure it is on 4 cylinders?

I did not play with the button but probably you're right. There might be a switch between 2 and 4 cylinders.

jcwright 09-20-2019 11:22 AM

A review of an hour/tach that resembles yours notes the following:

"They always work on one cylinder engines. With multi-cylinder engines they often pick up signals from more than one cylinder."

This might explain why your lowest RPM is 2800 (actually 700?).

amizerin 09-20-2019 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jcwright (Post 118556)
A review of an hour/tach that resembles yours notes the following:

"They always work on one cylinder engines. With multi-cylinder engines they often pick up signals from more than one cylinder."

This might explain why your lowest RPM is 2800 (actually 700?).

That sounds like exactly what's happening :) Well... I'm not sure I like to do the math dividing by 4 every time I check RPM. Is there a solution for that? A gauge that works with 4 cylinders?

ndutton 09-20-2019 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by amizerin (Post 118557)
Is there a solution for that? A gauge that works with 4 cylinders?

MMI catalog?

amizerin 09-20-2019 11:42 AM

How to I connect the RPM gauge to the engine?

ndutton 09-20-2019 11:49 AM

It depends on the gauge. The typical gas engine tachometer such as you'll find with Moyer gets 12VDC + and - plus a wire to the '-' terminal on the coil.

Another style of gauge (diesel style, I have one) gets 12VDC + and - plus a signal from the alternator. Unless your alternator already has an AC tap for this purpose I would avoid this type of tach. It also requires calibration because of different pulley ratios on different engines. In other words, much more hassle.

amizerin 09-20-2019 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ndutton (Post 118560)
It depends on the gauge. The typical gas engine tachometer such as you'll find with Moyer gets 12VDC + and - plus a wire to the '-' terminal on the coil.

Another style of gauge (diesel style, I have one) gets 12VDC + and - plus a signal from the alternator. Unless your alternator already has an AC tap for this purpose I would avoid this type of tach. It also requires calibration because of different pulley ratios on different engines. In other words, much more hassle.

Thank you! I believe any tachometer suitable for 4 cylinder engine will work?

JackConnick 10-10-2019 12:20 PM

I'd like to add a 2" tach to my A4. But I have no sensor or previous install to wire to.

If I read the above correctly, it just simply wires to the coil and counts pulses? No other sensor is required?

I've tried some of those electronic ones and agree they are junk...

TIA,
Jack

Al Schober 10-10-2019 07:49 PM

I don't think you need tach installed full time - just when you're doing diagnostics.
My meter is an antique Heathkit dwell/tachometer - probably 50 or 60 years old. Analog meter. It clips to the coil, so you have to set it for the number of cylinders. If it died, I'd look on Amazon - dwell tachometer - and see what's offered. My eyesight being what it is, I'd probably look for a big analog meter. Don't need digital.

JackConnick 10-11-2019 04:26 PM

No, I sometimes hear a miss or something while underway, maybe water in my fuel or something. I like to be able to check and also calibrate my boat speed to tach.

Jack

edwardc 10-13-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JackConnick (Post 118789)
...If I read the above correctly, it just simply wires to the coil and counts pulses? No other sensor is required?...

That is correct. The tach hooks to the "-" terminal of the coil and counts pulses as the points (or the EI) brings that terminal to ground.

Most Gas engine tachs have some sort of switch or jumpers to set the number of cylinders (1, 2, 4, 6, 8). Occasionally, this switch will be labeled in "pulses per revolution" instead of "cylinders". For the A4 (or any 4 cylinder 4-cycle engine), this should be set to "2" (1 pulse per cyl every 2 revs x 4 cyls = 2 pulses per rev)


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